5.16 patch notes

Charmed by Ahri··1 votes·1,197 views

"Since her return to the kitier, mage-ier (still a word) side of things, Ahri's benefited from a pretty safe laning phase" - balance team patch 5.16

She's recieved an enormous amount of QQ as to why is she harder to catch since the change from Charm amp damage amplification to a steroid movement speed boost on Q. Resulting in a "safe laning phase." Be that as it may, i can't recall anyone ever asking for kite mage Ahri and no one buys into that, because no plays kite mage Ahri, Ahri lands charm, she rushes, kills you and then moves onto the next thing. like What? If anything, i would have to say most Ahri mains would definitely prefer charm amp over orb movement speed boost.

The change has resulted in, her passive being nerfed, because her laning phase is too safe? When she had charm amp, her lane was more gankable pre 6. So riot ultimately got her nerfed by giving her movement speed boost instead keeping a damage amp and then proceeds to gut her passive because of it. Overall? Great work, what a joke.

Honestly, i don't think Ahri ever needed the healing passive and a rework all together would've been the proper thing todo. Kids cry about a safe laning phase because of the movement speed boost, then her passive healing on top of that made it too much? Well excuse me because people forget to mention any of the following champions who heal, without having to use 100-200 mana to do so. I would like to know where does that leave these champions that heal without even having to use that much mana to do so? Aatrox Akali Cassiopeia Chogath DrMundo Ekko Fiddlesticks Elise Fiora Galio Gangplank Garen Gnar Gragas Hecarim Irelia Kayle Khazix Maokai Morgana Nasus Nidalee Shen Nocturne Nunu RekSai Rengar Swain Udyr Volibear Vladimir XinZhao Yorick Zac

I just find it interesting the amount of effort used to Gut Ahri, but then all those champions have how much healing compared to Ahri?

Even though Ahri's passive was nerfed, that doesn't change the fact that she's still going to ravage. Inb4 more QQ.

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The Fast2 votes

Its not "Ahri has healing, therefore we'll nerf it," Its Ahri has healing, plus a ton of other shit, therefore we nerf the part least central to her overt play pattern, in an effort to shave off some her excess power.

Charmed by Ahri1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Knight Kore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFiFJB52,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-19T23:38:21.990+0000)

Its not "Ahri has healing, therefore we'll nerf it," Its Ahri has healing, plus a ton of other shit, therefore we nerf the part least central to her overt play pattern, in an effort to shave off some her excess power.

Instead of shaving it off, they could've replaced it with a new passive. The passive she is currently about to receive is going to have stats far worse than before.

The Fast1 votes

Yeah. That's called a "nerf." And it's deserved.

Mafia LeBlanc1 votes

I have nothing against Ahri; I don't play her, but I don't mind her at all when I have to play against her. I've never felt like she was overpowered or unfair throughout the years since her release. But I never really understood why she has a heal. Her heal used to be a bit frustrating back before the first big nerf to it - she could almost fill back 30% of her hp in one go, if not more. Nowadays her healing is barely noticeable and her prohibitive Mana costs prevent her from abusing it much anyway.

They should just change her passive to do something else at 9 charges other than heal. Why does she even have a heal at all? It doesn't go with her kit - she's not a tanky mage like Swain or Vlad, she's more of a utility mage like Lissandra. The healing doesn't help her do her job better, and rather than nerf it to near uselessness, just get rid of it altogether. She never even has to get in close range to use her spells, so she shouldn't be getting hit anyway.

Tbh the speed buff on her Q should have replaced her passive, but make it a bit longer duration since it's more difficult to proc. Or maybe even something entirely new. One of the biggest complaints about her after her release was that she could build super tanky with RoA, Abyssal, and tank items, and still chunk teams while being near unkillable, and this was the chance they had to just replace the heal and keep everything else about her the same.

Charmed by Ahri1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LeBonk James,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFiFJB52,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-19T23:52:16.051+0000)

I have nothing against Ahri; I don't play her, but I don't mind her at all when I have to play against her. I've never felt like she was overpowered or unfair throughout the years since her release. But I never really understood why she has a heal. Her heal used to be a bit frustrating back before the first big nerf to it - she could almost fill back 30% of her hp in one go, if not more. Nowadays her healing is barely noticeable and her prohibitive Mana costs prevent her from abusing it much anyway.

They should just change her passive to do something else at 9 charges other than heal. Why does she even have a heal at all? It doesn't go with her kit - she's not a tanky mage like Swain or Vlad, she's more of a utility mage like Lissandra. The healing doesn't help her do her job better, and rather than nerf it to near uselessness, just get rid of it altogether. She never even has to get in close range to use her spells, so she shouldn't be getting hit anyway.

Tbh the speed buff on her Q should have replaced her passive, but make it a bit longer duration since it's more difficult to proc. Or maybe even something entirely new. One of the biggest complaints about her after her release was that she could build super tanky with RoA, Abyssal, and tank items, and still chunk teams while being near unkillable, and this was the chance they had to just replace the heal and keep everything else about her the same.

That's exactly what i was talking about with a few Ahri friends i have. Give her a syndra passive, Where she gains things at max rank, like Maxing Q gives speed boost, maxing E gives charm amp, maxing w and r increases range. I never knew why she healed either, although it is nice to have, but was never necessary. The heal she had currently wasn't even overwhelming either, now its going to be none existent. They should've just reworked her passive to do something else. But either way it goes, People would just cry about her new passive anyways.

FailedEXE1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charmed by Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFiFJB52,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-20T00:05:32.106+0000)

That's exactly what i was talking about with a few Ahri friends i have. Give her a syndra passive, Where she gains things at max rank, like Maxing Q gives speed boost, maxing E gives charm amp, maxing w and r increases range. I never knew why she healed either, although it is nice to have, but was never necessary. The heal she had currently wasn't even overwhelming either, now its going to be none existent. They should've just reworked her passive to do something else. But either way it goes, People would just cry about her new passive anyways.

What exactly would you give her in place of Essence Theft? A slow? stun? reset? hp/mp regen? Not only would that make her overbearing but it would not fit her description either.

Her current passive is already very lackluster to say the least. Outside of laning phase, it's not very useful. The full benefit of Essence Theft comes from building spell vamp items on her such as Gunblade or Will Of The Ancients. They are not the most ideal items to build on her though.

Consuming the essence of others is part of Ahri's identity and that is why the passive fits but It needs a rework in a way that it should only work on champions (Preferably on kill should she heal off it) instead of being used on minions for sustain.

hi im Godric1 votes

I play just ahri and i am sad :<

Charmed by Ahri1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godric Lockhart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFiFJB52,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-08-20T00:17:44.832+0000)

I play just ahri and i am sad :<

It'll be OK! Ahri players will make it through this one way or another http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-cry-sad-tissue-upset-wipe-nose-GIF.gif

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