Get rid of autofill

Kythers··7 votes·415 views

Or disable it for support and JG players

Having a support player filled in a role he can't play is essentially an autoloss, same for a jungler

A midlaner should typically be a good laner and can thus play top or adc at a reliable level of skill, but a support filled top or a top filled into support is a fucking disaster.

This only gets worse as you climb up in elo, and the skill required to properly play the role takes months to develop

13 Comments

SmashinBob4 votes

Woah, claiming that a midlaner autofilled to adc would be at a reliable level of skill, you must be joking. I would rather have a support filled to midlane.

Kythers1 votes

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Woah, claiming that a midlaner autofilled to adc would be at a reliable level of skill, you must be joking. I would rather have a support filled to midlane.

A good midlaner knows how to : last hit, avoid ganks, position properly

that's half of playing ADC properly already, ofc you might struggle in lane due to not knowing matchups but if you play passive-ish and follow what your support does you shouldn't have issues

IP Masquerena3 votes

You don't need to remove it, just balance it equally for both teams. What I mean with that is that if my support is autofilled, then the enemy support is also autofilled, same for every other role.

That would make stuff fair for everyone, as both teams have the same number of autofills and on the same roles, so neither has an inherent advantage than the other. Yes, I know people can swap, and that can happen now as well, so I am not considering it, as many times people don't want to swap, especially with a support. And yes, I know that some people who got autofilled jg can be better than the other teams jg autofill, but that's subjective and not something you can guarantee, but considering both teams would have the same roles autofilled, it evens out way more compared to how it is not, where my autofill is the adc, while the enemy autofill is the top laner, etc etc.

Bent Pixels2 votes

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You don't need to remove it, just balance it equally for both teams. What I mean with that is that if my support is autofilled, then the enemy support is also autofilled, same for every other role.

That would make stuff fair for everyone, as both teams have the same number of autofills and on the same roles, so neither has an inherent advantage than the other. Yes, I know people can swap, and that can happen now as well, so I am not considering it, as many times people don't want to swap, especially with a support. And yes, I know that some people who got autofilled jg can be better than the other teams jg autofill, but that's subjective and not something you can guarantee, but considering both teams would have the same roles autofilled, it evens out way more compared to how it is not, where my autofill is the adc, while the enemy autofill is the top laner, etc etc.

I like this idea

lolibus1 votes

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You don't need to remove it, just balance it equally for both teams. What I mean with that is that if my support is autofilled, then the enemy support is also autofilled, same for every other role.

That would make stuff fair for everyone, as both teams have the same number of autofills and on the same roles, so neither has an inherent advantage than the other. Yes, I know people can swap, and that can happen now as well, so I am not considering it, as many times people don't want to swap, especially with a support. And yes, I know that some people who got autofilled jg can be better than the other teams jg autofill, but that's subjective and not something you can guarantee, but considering both teams would have the same roles autofilled, it evens out way more compared to how it is not, where my autofill is the adc, while the enemy autofill is the top laner, etc etc.

if the role was actually fair I would get same gold as everyone and not be behind 8 players, does riot expect me to be faker and outplay everyone with 5 gold coins?

IP Masquerena1 votes

Role and champion make things different. A Zac in the jungle will gank a lot more than a Shyvana but have less gold than her if his ganks fail.

The idea is learning to gank propperly based on what you have and what the enemy and allies are playing. Say you're Zac with an Annie mid vs a Zed/LeBlanc, early game, unless the Zed/LeBlanc blows his W for farming/harrassing or is at like half hp, ganking that lane won't be of much success. At best you'll blow the W and get him lower AND MAYBE Annie will get the kill a bit later with a Flash QW Stun Ignite combo.

Also, what I noticed from other jungle players, many don't know how to path correctly, don't know how to come back from early invades and camp steals or how to make up for failed ganks because they don't know how to gank propperly (I don't mean they don't know how to gank, but WHEN to gank, WHO to gank and WHY to gank).

Also, you can do some good things with low gold, by buying some defence/tank items, even if your champ isn't a tank. You can do a lot with low gold values in Silver (I know, because I'm there as well)

JustMonika132 votes

I don’t know about the higher levels of play but I personally can fill every role at least reliably.

Jungle and Mid will always be my best, but support and top I can play well and ADC is my worst role, but if I can avoid dying and maybe take first turret, we can start working from there.

lolibus1 votes

support can get filled top? how

I always get support with support as first role and bot as second

Kythers1 votes

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support can get filled top? how

I always get support with support as first role and bot as second

that's what I do, and I'm a competent enough ADC to do well usually, but I did get autofilled a few times

I have played against autofilled supports though and it's a sad sight

FullmuteAll play1 votes

in highest elo (not sure how true it is about NA) sup is more preferable/picked than top

SwiftKitten881 votes

i play support and jungle... i love autofill.

Rexxiee1 votes

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Or disable it for support and JG players

Having a support player filled in a role he can't play is essentially an autoloss, same for a jungler

A midlaner should typically be a good laner and can thus play top or adc at a reliable level of skill, but a support filled top or a top filled into support is a fucking disaster.

This only gets worse as you climb up in elo, and the skill required to properly play the role takes months to develop

I was playing flex the other day and had a master tier jg main get auto filled top and go 0-5 1v1 to a gold 1 top laner.

No kidding when ppl say jg and supports cant play anything out of their roles.

Elixors1 votes

I main top and support, so I guess the only issue is when I get placed in jungle, which almost never happens. Maybe everyone should adapt to whatever role they're placed in :3

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