Why does one pick Miss Fortune?

Leu07··3 votes·9,880 views
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I honestly believe she ought to have some gameplay changes, not just minor tweaks here and there, but a gameplay rework to make her viable, effective and unique. She just seems to be outclassed in every way, the only pro I truly see in her is her duel potential, and even there, the counterplay is easy, if you can't duel her, then don't. Let's check some aspects of her gameplay.

Her passive seems like a joke to me, the only purpose I find on it is to get faster to lane. "It is actually quite good for chasing" I don't really see it... any damage will take the Strut off, even minions, what about when you are in a TF, get untouched in it and you want to chase on enemy scapees? if you were in a lane, the minion aggro due to your AAs would have worn it off. It seems to me that Sivir just outclasses her totally with her passive, so why pick mf?

Her Q is actually a very good trading tool since, if I'm not mistaken, it resets AAs. But then again, if she will mostly outtrade you, don't trade and farm. Her Q also has an akward ap scaling, I get the people that wants to go all hipster and unique playing ap Miss fortune, nevertheless, she's even less viable if you build her ap, it doesn't even fit her indentity as a gunner, Trinity force can compesate fot this ap scaling but I find it too expensive and not that effective on MF. You can poke in lane with Q, yeah, she is a lane bully, but I believe this becomes a double edged blade, if you want to take advantage on that aspect, you will get ganked a lot, and Mf has no scapes, zero mobility (truly, her passive does not count). So why pick her for the poke when you have Ezreal with his Qs and Ws? or why pick her for the bullying when you got Caitlyn? both of those champs are very viable in team ranked comps and solo Q, unlike of course, lady MF.

Her W passive is ok, the only thing that bothers me is that it is Magic damage, again, it does not fit her as a gunner, it makes the armor penetration on her less effective. Good steroid, applies Griveous Wounds, all that is very nice, nothing more to say about it.

Her E is like... ugh Magic damage and ap scaling all over again... I'm not gonna explain myself again why I believe that is very very illogical on MF. It's a good brush check, it may* save your butt, not so good as a chasing tool anyways. This ability is just kind of pityful and has a big mana cost, pls don't spam it more than once in lane or you'll get oom faster than Anivia without tear. Koggy's E is actually even better than Mf's E, Cassiopeia's harmless W has more utility (I say harmless because IMO Cassio's W does less damage than a supp morgana's W, but that's another thread). Anyways, she just seems to be outdated in her ability kit.

Finally, her ultimate. The only good thing about it is that it looks cool, period. Why would you pick her because of her AOE damage ult if she just stands there doing again, magic damage with again, an awkward ap scaling. Yes, it applies GW passive stacks, the damage is not great anyways; I would much rather pick Graves and have that instant insane nuke and then keep doing damage with AA, or Jinx's ulti which is a very nice AOE global nuke with health% damage (wtf). Again, Ezreal's ultimate which has lower cd and many more uses (camp steal, wave clearing...). Even Vel'koz built as a supp has a much cooler looking and more effective ultimate. Mf doing her ult in a TF is like "Hey league of mobility/gap closer, I'm here, yes, the ad carry, showing off my ult while I'm standing channeling, pls kill me, I don't have a scape or self peel like every other meta adc".

Briefly, we've seen how her abilities are outclassed by mostly everyone. I would like to add that honestly, she needs a VU O.o. Please save Miss Fortune, one of the symbols of League of mobili... ehem Legends...

Pst. If you differ in opinion, please don't spray your venom, be people.

23 Comments

darkmage10001 votes

i agree. i played ap mf for a while and got a penta and retired from ap mf. she is useless as an ad carry as lucian is the better mf. he has the gap closer, a better version of her q, and a mobility buff w and his ult is the same as hers just alot better he can move and do alot of dmg to minions oh and it scales off ad, and attack speed. i liked to mf when i first started playing league and since i have got all the adcs she is the worst right now.

Partholonian1 votes

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his ult is the same as hers just alot better

Each wave of MF ult hits everyone in the area. Each bullet of Lucian ult hits the first target in line (i.e., usually the tank).

Also, Lucian doesn't have a steroid (other than his passive, which doesn't even work on turrets).

Not saying MF doesn't have problems, mainly her E is expensive and doesn't do much, but this comparison is pretty silly.

ActuallyArrow1 votes

I am usually relieved when I get matched with a MF, because its so easy to get rid of her. Hell, I was in a match with an MF that did worse than her support. As almost any champion I have played, I have found it very easy to push MF back to the turret, or just kill her quickly. I pretty much always target her early game because she is pretty squishy. Well, at least she is easy on the eyes.

RazorTS1 votes

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I am usually relieved when I get matched with a MF, because its so easy to get rid of her. Hell, I was in a match with an MF that did worse than her support. As almost any champion I have played, I have found it very easy to push MF back to the turret, or just kill her quickly. I pretty much always target her early game because she is pretty squishy. Well, at least she is easy on the eyes.

mf is healthiest of all adc champs, she can out trade anyone if you let her aa you, her problem is that all other adc have more burst or range or just plain better passive on other hand fed mf is as scary and oppressive as fed draven.

Leu071 votes

Not really, Draven outdamages and out scales MF by far, and he has a MS boost and a self peeling.

RazorTS1 votes

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Not really, Draven outdamages and out scales MF by far, and he has a MS boost and a self peeling.

yet he cant catch up on anyone, they both have their strengths not saying whos stronger of the two

ActuallyArrow1 votes

Well yeah, when she is fed. But early game if you feed off her and her support its pretty easy to make her pretty useless.

RazorTS1 votes

I like that she has magic damage and scaling, she has big mana problems tho, cost on E could be reduced and passive could use same treatment garens had...

Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

I agree, Mf is intended to do mix damage, but she is in the lower tiers, for Adc picks Ez and Corki do mixed damage better.

What should be changed? In the Past Riot nerfed MF for being a lane bully, yet Cait, Lucian, and Graves exist......... MF needs some power back to compete.

Passive: A> Change it so that after lvl 6 only Champs, Canon, jungle, and Barron buffed Mobs and can break strut. B> Add a 25 / 50 / 75 hp barrier, So to break strut you have to do over 25 / 50 / 75 damage to her. (lvls 1/6/11)

Q: Double up Same

W: Impure Shots PASSIVE: Miss Fortune's autoattacks deal 8% AD + 8% AP bonus magic damage, stacking cumulatively up to 5 + (1 × Bullet Time.png Bullet Time's rank) times. ACTIVE: Miss Fortune gains bonus attack speed for 6 seconds and her autoattacks also apply Grievous Wounds icon grievous wounds for 2 seconds.

E: Make It Rain Boost make it rain to 6 seconds

R: Bullet Time same

killd0zer1 votes

Jesus that post was hard to read, are you 12?

Her E is like... ugh Magic damage and ap scaling all over again...

Leu073 votes

If you're not going to contribute to the post, don't comment please.

Leu072 votes

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http://na.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=wuks http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=diamondeagles

"Useless"

Your win rate with MF does not prove she is in a good state.

Matezoide1 votes

Remember when MF was supposed to be a fast pusher as an ADC?

Then came Jinx who pushes better and does a buttload of extra stuff.

killd0zer1 votes

Remember when MF was supposed to be a fast pusher as an ADC?

No lol, she's a lane bully, with a teamfight centric ultimate. That's always what she was.

Skia Asteri1 votes

On demand Grievous wounds.

Her kit could stand to do a bit more than it does right now. In theory it looks like she should be able to output very high damage if she positions well and her team can keep her safe during an extended fight (from her W passive), so that should probably be the focus of any changes. Her E in particular is out of place since unlike everything else in her kit it does not interact with her W passive at all.

SmokingPuffin1 votes

MF simply has an effective range problem. She wants to fight from 550 range and has no dash. She's quite effective at fighting in lane at this range, but in a teamfight her lack of safety results in her tending to be just a walking ultimate.

I think she compares extremely unfavorably with Jinx. Quite similar to a Jinx without the rocket launcher mode.

DropFill1 votes

Sincerely? There is no reason to play MF. Lucian does what she do better, Jinx with better range, and etc. Mf is garbage nowadays , and that makes me sad. I was an adc main in the time where varus mf and ashe where playable. Now I had to give up on that position

One ayyed king1 votes

MF isnt meant to be played or do damage like typical carries. Her role is to support AOE team comps from a safe distance with her ult before moving in to deal damage with her autos after the major damage threats have been taken care of. In a meta with powerful assassins, tanks and split pushing your not going to see her very often but when it comes to standard 5v5 teamfights she is one of the better carries.

in fact there was a time not that long ago at the early stages of season 3 where MF was picked quite frequently.

Cindikle1 votes

Her kit lacks a point is overall the problem.

If you want an ADC that works in a wombo combo, Sivir, Jinx and Twitch are better. Jinx and Twitch will put out the same numbers without being locked in place for 2 seconds and their damage wont be 40% magic, which they have no pen for. Sivir wont do as much damage, but her ult will make landing the wombo's a great deal easier.

And going off what I posted above. Her mixed damage is a bad thing. It doesn't actually scale well unless you already have a few hits in to make up the lack of penetration.

Bascially, MF's ult says Wombo. Rest of her kit says duel/picks. She can be strong. She is a lane bully. But using her ult puts her at a disadvantage as well as it's easy to walk out of and she wont even get the full damage.

Honestly there isn't much she can do that Jinx can't do better. She has slightly stronger harass on her Q and mixed damage. She is also the better duelist. It's not so much I think Jinx's kit is loaded. But those powers are just not strong enough to justify her.

Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

What if Make it rain was like this?

Make It Rain Cost: 80 Mana Range: 800

Miss Fortune fires hundreds of bullets into the air that rain down at a location after 0.5 seconds, dealing 100/155/210/265/320 (80% AD + 80% Ability Power) magic damage over 5 seconds and slowing enemies hit by 25/35/45/55/65% the slow refreshes as long as the enemy is in the field.

So before at lvl 1 170 damage or 57 damage per sec Now 420 damage or 84 damage per sec

before at lvl 5 390 damage or 130 damage per sec now 640 or 128 damage per sec

Leu071 votes

I believe we've all made good points with very valid arguments, I just hope this thread gets a little bit of attention so it can be taken in consideration, our favorite and sexiest bounty hunter is in need of changes. MissFortune item 3070

IcyPepper1 votes

AP scaling on adc's? That's new KogMaw

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