When your adc isn´t even good
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Poor Lulu.
When I'm an ADC with an "initiator" support (thresh, Leona) I'll occasionally tell them to just call the shots. "If you ping I'll follow you" and just capitalize on their plays. That's supposed to be the idea anyway; you carry me, then I'll carry you.
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Until you get the Blitzcrank that lands EVERY hook the second it's off cooldown. Sounds great right? It's not. From lv1 you're in a constant dual of trades and going back every minute and yea, enemy has 30 cs at ten minutes. But you also only have 55.
That's actually a good scenario for some ADC's.
Pair that with Graves and wreck house if that Blitz is reliably getting grabs. The enemy normally may not take too much damage from a Buckshot, but when it now gets to be consistently in your face, it'll hurt like hell. Especially if he can get go back for a BF Sword first item with that magical Blitz.
Pair that with Vayne for a Condemn against a wall. If they doesn't blow everything including a Thresh lantern they will die.
Pair anything with Vayne for a higher chance at winning. Vayne winrate op.
Isn't it like 52%?
enemy has 30 cs at ten minutes. But you also only have 55.
Yeah, you have a lead. And you better have a kill lead as well if your Blitz is a baller. Not sure why you would complain. It's not even remotely rare to get a Blitz that lands 0 hooks during lane.
The problem I have with it is when it leads to an early midgame/laning phase is over. Yea I have 20 more cs and Maybe a kill or two (assuming they're playing an ADC that is slippery like trist, ez, vayne) so I couldn't fully capitalize on the grab; but I still do shit damage to the other enemies that got to farm properly.
Idk, maybe it's personal problem.
I main Blitz supp, and let me tell you that more often than not, when I land my hooks, my adc and i get plays done where we often come on top. Doesn't matter who the adc is, what their cs is, when I hook, we go in for the play. In the end, the opponents end up ff at 23-28 min mark, when I only have
,
, and
and my adc has 2-3 items (depends on who the adc is/ also depends on the items for that champ, such as having a bf sword and a
or something like that).
THANKS BLITZ!
"Don't let him grab you!" {Runs away}
{Face-palm}
I once saw a video about bad supports using their initiations whenever they can rather than saving them for when they'll have the most impact, made me think. I've killed Blitz because he hooked me more times than I can count.
When I'm an ADC with an "initiator" support (thresh, Leona) I'll occasionally tell them to just call the shots. "If you ping I'll follow you" and just capitalize on their plays. That's supposed to be the idea anyway; you carry me, then I'll carry you.
pretty much this.
If I ever have a leo, thresh, blitz, ali, etc, supp me as soon as I get in game I say to them "If you can engage, do it"
that way I'll cs for a while and then finally follow my supp as they dive in after the adc.
whats MOST annoying tho is when you're a 'hook supp' and there are too many minions. and your adc won't fucking push.
However, the communication/pings is important too. We've all been there:
: Whistles away, farming CS
: Throws hook past Alistair, hits Graves, pulls himself in, dies 2 seconds later
: щ(゜ロ゜щ) WHY U NO GO IN?!
: - . - There is an Alistair in the way.
But overall I find much more success when I wait for the support to call the shots.
/10
If only brittany venti read this. All she does on stream when she duo's bot. I'm totally carrying (as she was walks through enemy minion wave and tries to go into an auto fight with the enemy adc). Her duo partner: I just had to use my heal to save you so i hope your happy Brittany: I'm not happy cause now im at 2 bars of health. (Dies 1 minute later) Brittany: WHy didn;t you just hit them Duo PArtner: Cause i had 10 hp Britanny: See this shows im a better gamer cause i atleast was auto attacking
lesson learned: You're the support. You aren't supposed to be doing better than your carry. You're supposed to make sure your carry does better than them and does better than everyone else in the game.
When I can't land hooks every once in a while, my adc gets mad. But when i finally land that hook, they don't follow up.
Laned with a Vayne who complained about me not doing my job as Blitzcrank. She'd be right... if she didn't condemn them away every hook.
Every. Hook. At least condemn them into the wall...

When I can't land hooks every once in a while, my adc gets mad. But when i finally land that hook, they don't follow up.
You play top best, but you might as well play adc because you're only 1 level behind your top lane performance - http://lol.arenaonline.com/stats/summoners/predatore/overview
ADCs shouldn't get mad if you miss a few hooks, but ever since one game as Mordekaiser, I'm just gonna get kind of pissy if you act like you hook is on a two minute cooldown but ignores creeps... Especially as a guy who actually enjoys playing Blitz Support on the side.
The best are the
s that pick her into supports she has no business being with, and then want to get mad when that
isn't super eager to be thrown into the enemy team.
Once saw a Kalista ask the enemy team to report Sona because she wouldn't dive during Kalista's ult.
It actually works with Sona if she has her ult. Go in, ult, leave.
Reminds of me when my ADC was shit taking me about taking CS.
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THIS
IS!?!?! I'ts ok if you say no, you're probably a carry main and never seen it before but it gives you more gold.
It's even worse when I see people clear waves when I have four charges and even my ADC killing cannon minion to stop me from using FACE.
Why do people do that? Is it some sick trolling act that I'm unaware of?
Um.... what elo is that where people don't know what that item is? I've often had the opposite experience where supports don't use it correctly. Either missing the execute with Thresh or killing the weak caster minions instead of the cannon.
Um.... what elo is that where people don't know what that item is? I've often had the opposite experience where supports don't use it correctly. Either missing the execute with Thresh or killing the weak caster minions instead of the cannon.
I only kill caster with relic shield in 2 scenarios:
That last panel lol. I know this feeling all too well. I switched to being a jungle main because I couldn't stand ADC's.
I once had Vayne tell me to engage when I was leona and the enemy had a giant minion against us and it was only level 2. Got pissed at me when I told her that's a dumb idea. Then when I hit 6 and went full in and had their adc low and cc'd she didn't do anything.
Really hate adc mains/players
ADC mains can actually look at what's going on and do something. Vayne mains/players are who you are talking about.
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That last panel lol. I know this feeling all too well. I switched to being a jungle main because I couldn't stand ADC's.
I once had Vayne tell me to engage when I was leona and the enemy had a giant minion against us and it was only level 2. Got pissed at me when I told her that's a dumb idea. Then when I hit 6 and went full in and had their adc low and cc'd she didn't do anything.
Really hate adc mains/players
Good idea. You're much stronger in the Jungle, Gold 5, where you're Silver in all other lanes. http://lol.arenaonline.com/stats/summoners/simple%20tora/overview
Whoa, never knew about this site lol. Makes me feel like i've been moving up since i've been working hard to perfect my jungle and i've been hardly confident in it but now I feel like I do well in it and will continue to better it.
Motivational site even if it's accurate or not
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Whoa, never knew about this site lol. Makes me feel like i've been moving up since i've been working hard to perfect my jungle and i've been hardly confident in it but now I feel like I do well in it and will continue to better it.
Motivational site even if it's accurate or not
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Should make a thread and promote the site. It'll help people realize what they need to work on to improve
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Should make a thread and promote the site. It'll help people realize what they need to work on to improve
We absolutely are intending to do that. In fact, we'll be making a big announcement on Monday that we're going to be paying out $1,000,000 in our first year in LoL tournaments. Our whole intention is to let the 99.9% of non-pro players make money and grow in their abilities, and that's why our stats site is so important. It's the backbone to learning how to improve. If you don't mind the self-promotion, check out our Indiegogo campaign, which is how we're accepting our first tournament signups for Nov. - http://igg.me/at/G5sFkOBS7dY/x/10677691
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We absolutely are intending to do that. In fact, we'll be making a big announcement on Monday that we're going to be paying out $1,000,000 in our first year in LoL tournaments. Our whole intention is to let the 99.9% of non-pro players make money and grow in their abilities, and that's why our stats site is so important. It's the backbone to learning how to improve. If you don't mind the self-promotion, check out our Indiegogo campaign, which is how we're accepting our first tournament signups for Nov. - http://igg.me/at/G5sFkOBS7dY/x/10677691
Did you notice that your jungle is a gold 5 even though you're ranked silver 3?
I had a Vayne the other day that got into a melee range auto-attack battle with the enemy alistar for a solid five seconds, no kiting or anything. I played a killer lane that game and got her monstrously fed somehow, but we couldn't get any objectives because she had all our gold and would back after every fight no matter how much health she had, how many of them were down, and how many times we pinged targets on turrets and dragons. In the end she had 33 kills, by far the most across both teams, and she couldn't carry an ant. Managed to tie for most deaths on the map as well.
What's sad is that I have actually had games like that.
when i supported i would run into this then i went to adc to try making a difference and as i grew into the role i had so many toxic supports and still get em. from the ones who bait you into a fight you cant win to the ones who take every kill and cs with the reason of fuck you that's why, wish i was exaggerating i deeply truly wish supports were as kind and sweet as the general community makes em out to be but in reality they aren't just like every lane they can be toxic af and just like a toxic adc they can ruin a game for there partner when adcs need to be carried before they can carry
cos those people whom are supporting you aren't support mains.
the real support mains would only start taking CS if you keep missing them :P
cos those people whom are supporting you aren't support mains.
**the real support mains would only start taking CS if you keep missing them :P **
This is too true. The other day I had a vayne that was the worst I've ever seen at csing. Literally missed atleast 2/3 of the minions each wave and had like 50 cs at the end of the game(around 25 mins). I just gave up and took most of the cs.
The saddest part about this was that in champ select, she said her game plan was to let her farm to late game...
^Bronze In a Nutshell.
This is all too true. And who the hell starts lvl 1 with silver bolts? Easiest way to detect a garbage Vayne player.
Someone should make another for
dear god his players are almost as bad as Vayne.
With a provision in place for Blue Builders, because they're mostly there to have fun.
I've had games where as Janna. I poked down the enemy adc to 20% hp on my own, then my adc goes all in on their support who is full hp, and dies, this is before items are rampant, and then proceeds to claim me, as Janna for her tower diving them and me not helping, when I was attacking the 20% adc and got it to 5% and forced a flash, meaning just one AA from my adc would have killed her...
vayne is the riven of ADCs
This hit a little too close to home
PTSD Intensifies