Seems like the only way to climb is to play jungle.

uSfUpLarry·Nov 12, 2019·15 votes·7,667 views

A wise man once said, "The best way to get something done is to do it yourself".

So I started playing jungle instead of top and mid in order to climb and I am currently sitting at a 65%+ winrate merely because the morons you find playing jungle if you don't play it yourself are so utter bad in this season, it becomes impossible to win with any other shit role this game has to offer.

The problem with jungle isn't that the role is weak. No, jungle is probably the strongest role in the game right now. It's strong to the point where playing anything else to climb feels like trolling because if you'r serious about climbing, you can't possible give this role up to some afk farming moron who won't ever gank a lane or try to contest objectives.

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KVbqbFsC8eNov 12, 201914 votes

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A wise man once said, "The best way to get something done is to do it yourself".

That is hilarious considering you're posting from a botted Twisted Treeline account that you bought.

5050BSNov 12, 201910 votes

Better Jungler wins 90% of the time

Anime FizzNov 12, 20195 votes

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Better Jungler wins 90% of the time

More like 95%+ of the time.

The other day i counted and the better jg won in 19 out of 20 of my last ranked games in high elo, its ridiculous.

The thigh guyNov 12, 20199 votes

Or you pick one of the hilariously broken top lane champions and hit plat by default.

LegacyDAPNov 12, 20194 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jurqp38h,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-12T23:13:33.961+0000)

Or you pick one of the hilariously broken top lane champions and hit plat by default.

Haha yeah man Plat is such a high elo and top most broken role in the game. Okay.

The thigh guyNov 13, 20191 votes

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Haha yeah man Plat is such a high elo and top most broken role in the game. Okay.

Considering plat Mmr is top 10% of players?

VampiricLlamaNov 13, 20196 votes

Imagine having your head so far up your ass that you don't think being higher-ranked than 90% of the playerbase is high elo.

uSfUpLarryNov 13, 20192 votes

In which world is play the top 10%?

Especially in NA where your plat plays like EUW's silver. No wonder you guys don't get very far.

Jungle SenseiNov 13, 20195 votes

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In which world is play the top 10%?

Especially in NA where your plat plays like EUW's silver. No wonder you guys don't get very far.

You literally have a 36% WR in silver. and a 25% wr in the jungle.

Also Low elo in both EU and NA are the exact same. There is literally no difference. People who say any different have no idea what the hell they are talking about. You can be delusional as much as you like, But Silver is the same in both EU and NA.

VampiricLlamaNov 13, 20191 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution

Everything above Plat 3 is the top 9%, which means the better players in Plat 4 are also in the top 10%...

Moody PNov 13, 20192 votes

It's not.

uSfUpLarryNov 12, 20192 votes

Lmao try doing that and tell me if you ever win a match based on your shit champ alone who will either way gt outscaled by the opponent's ADC.

The thigh guyNov 13, 20192 votes

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Lmao try doing that and tell me if you ever win a match based on your shit champ alone who will either way gt outscaled by the opponent's ADC.

Oh! You mean that 0/2 renekton that 100-0s the 22/2 jinx? :D because top lane picks are so hilariously broken that you have to actually have no arms to lose with them?

uSfUpLarryNov 13, 20191 votes

First . 0/2 Renekton will never be able to beat a 22 kill Jinx in a 1v1 after she's build a Bloodthirster.

Second. If your Jinx hasn't build any defensive items, rushes full AD crit build without at the minimum a item 3046 , she loses the rights to complain about getting blown up. Don't build full AD, sit at 1300 HP late game and still complain about not being able to survive.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

The thigh guyNov 13, 20191 votes

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First . 0/2 Renekton will never be able to beat a 22 kill Jinx in a 1v1 after she's build a Bloodthirster.

Second. If your Jinx hasn't build any defensive items, rushes full AD crit build without at the minimum a , she loses the rights to complain about getting blown up. Don't build full AD, sit at 1300 HP late game and still complain about not being able to survive.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Except even when hilariously fed jinx can’t build bloodthirster. Adcs like her for forced to build crit.

Second. Renekton kills her even when behind without counterplay. He has a point and click stun, that instant procs pta while also doing a shit ton of damage.

HeeroTXNov 13, 20191 votes

A super strong top can roll an adc if the team around the adc sucks, as an adc main, can confirm. That said, the ONLY way an 0/2 Renek does this to a 22 kill Jinx is if the Jinx is hilariously fed due to her team, in which case no way in hell does the Renek ever get near the Jinx. In low elo the game is usually (at best) one badass on each team, the "ideal" is if your team's badass is the jungle in the current META because if the enemy's is jg and yours isn't, then you lose and vice versa. If the best on each team is NOT jungle then you can have all manner of variation depending on the team and the specific skills of the best players.

But yeah, Jungle has most ability to influence the game due to not being tied to a specific location/lane. And agree with OP that if your jg is a farmer and the enemy is a ganker, the ganker is GOING to win unless he sucks at it.

(Oh, and I build a ton of crit, but you always have one LS item in there too, I'd actually build BotRK against Renek rather than BT (probably) but IE=25% crit, Zeal Item(x2) = 50% crit, that still leaves you 3 slots with 75% crit, 1 for boots, 1 for LS and then you can either get 100% crit, or ArmorPen or GA and still be laying out a ton of dmg)

uSfUpLarryNov 13, 20191 votes

Show me a real example.

The thigh guyNov 13, 20191 votes

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Show me a real example.

Aatrox Akali Camille Fiora Irelia Jax Kled Pantheon Renekton Riven

But you know. I’m sure all these champions that can practically 1v9 without being fed are just exceptions right? Just a coincidence that they all go top lane. Just so weak.

LegacyDAPNov 13, 20191 votes

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But you know. I’m sure all these champions that can practically 1v9 without being fed are just exceptions right? Just a coincidence that they all go top lane. Just so weak.

How come you have 25% winrate on Jax?

The thigh guyNov 13, 20191 votes

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How come you have 25% winrate on Jax?

Because I don’t play Jax?

LegacyDAPNov 13, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jurqp38h,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2019-11-13T00:03:29.692+0000)

Oh! You mean that 0/2 renekton that 100-0s the 22/2 jinx? :D because top lane picks are so hilariously broken that you have to actually have no arms to lose with them?

You've played top like 0 times in your life if you think Renekton just one shots a 22/2 Jinx.

The thigh guyNov 13, 20191 votes

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You've played top like 0 times in your life if you think Renekton just one shots a 22/2 Jinx.

I play every role but mid quite a bit. And renekton is one of my go too top laners.

There is all of 1 adc that I ever struggle to deal with after 1 item. Caitlyn

Fun fact. Point and click anything makes an adc die instantly and without counterplay.

LegacyDAPNov 13, 20191 votes

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I play every role but mid quite a bit. And renekton is one of my go too top laners.

There is all of 1 adc that I ever struggle to deal with after 1 item.

Fun fact. Point and click anything makes an adc die instantly and without counterplay.

Wrong. ADC's can position correctly and they won't die. Team can just CC Renekton and he almost dies immediately. Renekton is extremely strong in lane and after that he's pretty lackluster compared to a LOT of top laners.

The thigh guyNov 13, 20191 votes

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Wrong. ADC's can position correctly and they won't die. Team can just CC Renekton and he almost dies immediately. Renekton is extremely strong in lane and after that he's pretty lackluster compared to a LOT of top laners.

Wrong. Positioning means nothing when top laners are handed 60 different ms steroids.

LegacyDAPNov 14, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jurqp38h,comment-id=0003000100000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T23:31:42.336+0000)

Wrong. Positioning means nothing when top laners are handed 60 different ms steroids.

ah yes, the 60 ms steroid that also stops all forms of CC when approaching an enemy ADC. You're actually ridiculous. Go play 100 games of top and tell me how overpowered that role is.

LegacyDAPNov 13, 20191 votes

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Lmao try doing that and tell me if you ever win a match based on your shit champ alone who will either way gt outscaled by the opponent's ADC.

he did. He lost his games as Jax in silver lmfao

uNhoLeeeNov 13, 20195 votes

Kayn CS 143.4 (4.7) 1.74:1 KDA 5.9 / 7.3 / 6.8 25% 16 Played

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

MyrmironNov 13, 20196 votes

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Kayn CS 143.4 (4.7) 1.74:1 KDA 5.9 / 7.3 / 6.8 25% 16 Played

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

I think it's really beautiful how the OP claims NA Plat is = to EUW silver (while he is silver on EUW) and also claims he's a 65% winrate jungle god while being absolutely terrible at jungleing. Truly amazing, I'm now waiting for him to claim that that's not his main account and then link some random > silver 4 account.

HügöNov 13, 20191 votes

Don't mind him it is just the usual "junle op role" post but trying it with a bad story.

GankLordNov 13, 20193 votes

As a hybrid jungle main and mid laner I can tell you that your statement is bs. You can snowball hard as a jungler, even set up a top laner nicely so they have 3 kills to 0 but if the person can not lane it means absolutely nothing. The current state of the game does not allow for solo carrying. If you're laners die 3 times in 5 minutes it doesn't matter how fed you are you're going to lose. Try to lead by example in your lane and people will 7 times out of 10 follow your direction. Teamwork in this season of the game is what really wins matches. That wasn't the case seasons 1-5 (I started officially in Season 2) but it is now.

DiopsideˆNov 13, 20191 votes

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As a hybrid jungle main and mid laner I can tell you that your statement is bs. You can snowball hard as a jungler, even set up a top laner nicely so they have 3 kills to 0 but if the person can not lane it means absolutely nothing. The current state of the game does not allow for solo carrying. If you're laners die 3 times in 5 minutes it doesn't matter how fed you are you're going to lose. Try to lead by example in your lane and people will 7 times out of 10 follow your direction. Teamwork in this season of the game is what really wins matches. That wasn't the case seasons 1-5 (I started officially in Season 2) but it is now.

Top role is abysmal two kills early gives u lead, two deaths early game gives u lost lane. Whole top is absolute BS counter-pick fiesta.

Mid in my opinion is most impactful lane across all game, it gives roaming power and more solo carry power.

Jungle role is difficult to carry depends on the champion class/role you play.

AdamrCcNov 13, 20192 votes

Well then get over your insecurities and start helping push lanes instead of just giving your laners kills. If you aren't playing for objectives you aren't winning.

GankLordNov 13, 20191 votes

You're assuming that I have them. You're assuming that I'm not doing exactly that, you just jumped over my whole point. If your laners can't lane as a jungler no matter what you do it's not going to matter. Again you're acting as if you can still solo carry in this season. You can't you need competent team members because at a certain point you'll become a focus and the enemy team will realize that without you the entire thing falls apart. Jungle will probably be the role that has the biggest impact in season 10 looking at the changes but right now the succes of climbing usually falls upon where your bot lane is good or not or at least isn't feeding. That's where the real power is at least in Gold Elo. However, that being said there isn't one role that "If you definitely want to climb" you play.

NTrumpWeTrustNov 12, 20192 votes

Idk being able to throw out a random hook at someone every 4 seconds with the potential of that pick to be game winning while also having zero risk, seems like a pretty solid way to win games

/support

Starcraft243verNov 13, 20192 votes

Midlane is fine too if you roam a lot.

Fella AirNov 13, 20191 votes

Jungle is one of the highest autofill roles so yes, it does seem to be worth learning.

uSfUpLarryNov 13, 20191 votes

Literally played a game where my ADC fed the opponent 6 kills and went AFK because I, as a jungler decided to play around top lane and get my top laner fed.

Also took the herald as top was doing way better than bot, sacrificed the dragon, and got my top Jax fed off the turret plating gold to the point where he could 1v2 easily.

I won the match hard despite it being 4v5 for the most part, and I going 6/8 myself.

The decision to play around the winning lane paid off.

Didn't get flamed for that match and actually received two honours. When you play jungle with common sense it actually feels rewarding and you hardly get flamed. It is very influential tho.

NaalithNov 13, 20191 votes

Idk. At the end of this season I stopped picking jungle and started picking Fill and went from P4 to D4 in like 3 days. Seems like if you play Fill and stop your teammates from getting autofilled and trolling, you win a ton of games. Of course, that requires you to know how to play all 5 roles but as a normal blind pick player that wasn't an issue for me.

Düff McWhalenNov 13, 20191 votes

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A wise man once said, "The best way to get something done is to do it yourself".

So I started playing jungle instead of top and mid in order to climb and I am currently sitting at a 65%+ winrate merely because the morons you find playing jungle if you don't play it yourself are so utter bad in this season, it becomes impossible to win with any other shit role this game has to offer.

The problem with jungle isn't that the role is weak. No, jungle is probably the strongest role in the game right now. It's strong to the point where playing anything else to climb feels like trolling because if you'r serious about climbing, you can't possible give this role up to some afk farming moron who won't ever gank a lane or try to contest objectives.

It's why I became a jungle main dude. Top you have no impact on the game. Mid you just get camped. Bot you are with an absolutely brain dead moron as your lane partner who can't do basic shit like ward and play safe. Jungling is THE role to be if actually want control over the game and want to be able to carry. Jungle difference is very real.

uSfUpLarryNov 13, 20191 votes

True.

I was a top/mid main myself. I love playing bruisers but top is a shit show right now.

Akali PrimeNov 13, 20191 votes

said "fuck it, ill main yi and jax till i hit gold" and immediately saw this while making my runes lol

8 Lamar JacksonNov 13, 20191 votes

Ive been on a pretty good climb from Supp. I found a champ (Leona) I really mesh with along with a good back up (Lux) if shes not available. So JG isnt the ONLY way to climb. It is a very important role and much of the game is in your hands, so 1 minor mistake can lead to a domino effect. Its why I dont mid where im currently at, as its too important of a role and im too bad at certain things (csing in my case) to really level up.