WHEN YOU ARE FEEDING STOP BUYING OFFENSSIVE ITEMS....
for fucks sake...
just had a 23-0-1 kassadin... my allies REFUSED to buy a single piece of MR.... at what point do you realise you need defenssive stats to not get 1 shot? really though? its disgusting... the best defence in league IS NOT AN OFFENSE when you dont understand your champion
Secondary PSA: When your job is to deal damage, and your feeding, you might as well buy damage and be somewhat useful, instead of surviving for .5s longer.
honestly at THAT point.. they are RIGHT not to buy MR As with 23 kills he will be at max build, and will have max AP a blue elixer and is going to 1 shot them anyways.
damage creep is too high right now that i doubt if they sold every item they had and spent all thier gold on MR that would survive a 1 shot from him...
(this is of course assuming they would be building damage anyways), and obviously are needed..
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Tertiary PSA: Why not both?
but the point still stands with the amount of damage creep in the game unless you are an innately tanky champion. you're not going to survive a full combo from a 23/0.
should thay had had MR LONG BEFORE he reached that point.. OBVIOUSLY YES.. and he probably wouldn't be AT at point of 23/0 of they DID have it like they were supposed to
what im trying to say is.. if he is ALREADY 23/0... its a BIT too late to be building MR as it not going to make any difference at that point
If youre behind, you should still be building damage.
defenses are so absurdly weak unless youre ahead, and if youre ahead youre winning anyway.
I would say AT MOST buy one defensive item if behind. But you should be aiming for items that improve your offense while providing a bit of defense.
For example, if youre an AD, you should be dropping all rushed items to get . You dont want to be a useless sitting duck, its better to have damage to fight back with.
Contrary to most beliefs, its not all about your numbers. Your positioning plays a huge part too. If you're feeding and you do what I say, and position better youll be fine. If you go nothing but straight tank not only are you like 2k gold behind you also have absolutely nothing to fight back with. They just ignore you.
TLDR: Buy damage items that have some defensive capabilities and position better, buying straight tank is pointless.
damage outscales defense
"But if I build tank I won't do any damage!"
-Direct quote from Bronze friend playing Shen
23 and 0? Best to cut your losses and Surrender at that point, I think.
that 0/5 pantheon
that keeps rushing yo mama's
In a game not long ago, I played 
botlane and the enemy 
toplane got fed really hard. By the time I was level 13, he was level 18. When he suddenly 2-3 shot me with just an auto hit and blind dart, I immidiately started to build 
and 
.
A few minutes later I was able to beat him 1v1 consistently.
And guess what, they then started to complain about me building Magic Resist and spell-blocks instead of more raw damage and that I could just position differently to not get hit by Teemo. Yeah sure, I'm gonna stand behind my tanks in the middle of a teamfight and magically I don't get hit by point&click autoattacks from a fed ranged champion with high movementspeed. As Ashe.
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
Actually, you should keep buying offensive items. If you build no damage, you have less chance of success if your jungler comes to help or if you try to pick up a kill in a team fight or skirmish.
You should just go for offensive items with earlier spikes. Instead of Triforce Ez, go IBG. Instead of Luden's Echo on your apc, go Morello or Abyssal.
If you're a tankier class...your overall build should just be tankier in general, but your first damage item (if you need one) should still be completed.
But... but... My MOBAfire build says my first item is Void Staff. If I don't rush it, what am I supposed to do???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Personally I'm adc/jhin main, and yes i am a filthy disgusting dirty lethality user of varus(not much) and jhin.
And if i seem pressured in lane or losing it a bit overall instead of going into 
i go into for the defensive purpose which usually works out pretty well, but if i still seem to be getting pressured by the enemy ADC well i build into 
which honestly are unfair against adc's its ridiculous.
Even SKT Bang used them against KT very recently and the casters pointed out how those boots are broken.
You lost. Kassadin is the hardest snowballing champion in the entire game; if that shit gets going early, you're donezo.
nnnoooo it really depends on each and every single situation. of course to a point, most games are just outright lost by then due to snowball meta
If it was reasonable to actually outplay and punish champions, despite being behind, then buying offensive items would be the correct decision.
However, given how little down time most champions have now and how low time to kill has become, buying a defensive item rarely means you will see a significant increase in time to kill when behind.
If AD scaling wasn't so high, that 150 hp vs 10 bonus AD actually gave a significant threshold of damage absorption, not just 1-2 extra auto attacks due to all the scaling that's associated with AD now, then you might have a point. Mind you that's before you consider that that 150hp already costs 50 more gold, and the fact that offensive passive abilities are substantially better than defensive passives on both items and masteries, you can see why it rarely pays off to buy defensive when behind.
Riot decided that the way they would lower the game time would be to make it so that fighting fire with water is less efficient and less consistent than fighting it with fire. They do it, because china, or specifically tencent, wants it that way.
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
So if he was 23 kills in, can i assume your team was being smart and the feeders werent going for kills?
Its actually a SUPER viable strategy to feed untl youre not worth gold, then just not reset your gold so youre not worth killing. High ELO players wont even look at you unless youre pressuring a lane because you arent worth the effort.
IF I KILL HIM HE CAN'T KILL ME :^)
