Can we talk about Sylas now?

Merciless Beauty·Feb 18, 2019·1 votes·1,528 views

Can we... can we talk about this?

Sylas has been out for some time now and Riot, I find that his kit is extremely overtuned. I hate how we have a bruiser early game with so much burst potential that late game when he has items it doesn't even matter that he didn't rofl-stomp lane, he still one-shots ADC. Y'all missed a golden opportunity to balance him in patch 9.4 like you missed the Lissandra nerf by a long shot, and I can't wait for another 2 weeks of having to HOPE the enemy team doesn't pick Lissandra or Sylas and get a free win because your balance team messed up.

Lissandra Aftershock is disgusting with the amount of damage she can reliably put out and the way she can 100--0 squishies while still being tanky.

Sylas (Insert Rune) is disgusting because he can straight win any 1 v 1 with one button imput: W.

Please take a look at these champs and do something to them before they get any more broken. Good job on finally nerfing the King of Top Lane (that Urgot nerf was a long time coming) and Yasuo (because that shit was stupidly broken).

8 Comments

ZaFiReXFeb 18, 20191 votes

What are you talking about? He is actually a low damage champion. He only heals and he have decent trades. He can't even delete like an assasin, you need to be low. He is not good on early game. If you build him full glass cannon he have the same problems like Diana, he can't escape. 47-49% winrate at mid-top, 45% at jungle on platinum+

ReZisT LustFeb 20, 20191 votes

item 3027 item 3089 item 3151 item 3001 item 3157 item 1001 is good hp dmg build I like, w max ith revitalize and time warp

ZaFiReXFeb 21, 20191 votes

Sorry, but that build is not very good... You play him on mid? How do you rush Rabadon on second item if you are not feed? And you won't be feed because Sylas doesn't do that much damage. Maybe on third. Do you know he lacks a little on AP ratios? You don't have ANY CDR whatsoever earlier and it's very important on Sylas.... and some tanky items at the end is not worth it. You don't even make good use of Liandry in that build, maybe a little vs tanks.

Like I said, that kind of builds going full cannon are bad, because you go in but you can't go back or still tank in a teamfight. If you try something like going 1v3 to initiate a teamfight, you can't even tank with full AP items, and if you take many AP items you can't do trade after trade. In a teamfight, going a little tanky I can make like 3 rotations of spells or more and still surviving, going AP I can make maybe 1 or 2. Remember Sylas best lane is toplane and you usually don't have a tank for you team if you go to that lane.

Here's some builds pro are playing Top Voyboy: item 3027 item 3115 item 3173 item 3157 item 3089 Mid full cannon: item 3152 item 3100 item 1001 [ item 3135 or item 3165 ] Top: item 3025 item 3065 and now some tank or AP items like item 3151

item 3001 is very situational with many AP going bruiser, going mid is better item 3102

Daddy ReTaricFeb 21, 20191 votes

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Sorry, but that build is not very good... You play him on mid? How do you rush Rabadon on second item if you are not feed? And you won't be feed because Sylas doesn't do that much damage. Maybe on third. Do you know he lacks a little on AP ratios? You don't have ANY CDR whatsoever earlier and it's very important on Sylas.... and some tanky items at the end is not worth it. You don't even make good use of Liandry in that build, maybe a little vs tanks.

Like I said, that kind of builds going full cannon are bad, because you go in but you can't go back or still tank in a teamfight. If you try something like going 1v3 to initiate a teamfight, you can't even tank with full AP items, and if you take many AP items you can't do trade after trade. In a teamfight, going a little tanky I can make like 3 rotations of spells or more and still surviving, going AP I can make maybe 1 or 2. Remember Sylas best lane is toplane and you usually don't have a tank for you team if you go to that lane.

Here's some builds pro are playing Top Voyboy: Mid full cannon: [ or ] Top: and now some tank or AP items like

is very situational with many AP going bruiser, going mid is better

Fact that tank build is mostly used assuming he also take aftershock.. I don't feel good about this. Tank Ekko and Tank Fizz alonside Tank Akali, etc were never fun to play against. Why Sylas is okay?

ZaFiReXFeb 21, 20191 votes

Normal combo with a few item does like 1000 damage. With tank Sylas he can do like 500 damage. AP Sylas can do their combo once going full cannon, using it then using zhonya to make it another time. In 1v1 its fine, but in squirmishes he can't really do his work. Going tank/bruiser he can do their combo several times, with shields and heals on the top, the resistances make him hard to kill. When lategame arrives, he can use after lvl 16 like 2 or 3 ults in teamfights. If he plays AP maybe 1 or 2. Her AP ratios aren't that high, they are ok. For me, his kit is not made for going full cannon/assassin-like, because once he go in, he can't run, but it can work with Zhonya I guess.

ReZisT LustFeb 23, 20191 votes

top and like i said Its what i like i dont really care pro builds and cd can come from runres and ionians i just left base boots for situational.

SkellyIRLFeb 18, 20191 votes

I think they're going to leave him relatively the same for a bit to see where he lands in terms of balancing him. He has a low winrate but people are still learning him. He also doesn't seem like a champ people should first pick. I think his W is dumb but the rest seems fine in my opinion.

ZaFiReXFeb 21, 20191 votes

He is not doing great, less than 48% WR. He needs a buff to their skills, I would buff his Q damage E dmg ratios, and maybe a nerf to his lategame