Cho'gath and his new ultimate

YokoNomi·2/26/2017, 9:04:25 PM·4 votes·4,149 views

Now I'm honestly tilted enough to want to assume his ult is broken, stacking as much health as he can while losing none of it, effectively making some builds top darn near obsolete. But I'm wondering what the idealized counter is to something like this. What do people usually build to counter a health stacking monster?

28 Comments

A FLUFFY BUNNY 12/26/2017, 9:15:10 PM4 votes

BOTRK, Lord Dominiks Regards would be my first two items. so... any of these. item 1419 item 3036 item 3153 all do percent health damage

Hexs Fortune2/26/2017, 9:42:26 PM3 votes

No matter how much health you stack, you'll die in team fights come late game

Sire Hippington2/26/2017, 10:27:10 PM3 votes

well, hp stacking is countered by Botrk and bloodrazor msotly, and a bit by liandrie's, and alot champs also use %hp damage(and Fiora can still take ~70% of his hp with her ult in no time come to lategame) But mostly, even with alot hp, damage overall is hihg enough to burn through him even without %hp damage, while he and his kit are rather easy to avoid.

Though whats quite absurd is his interaction with hp scaleing items. Titanic hydra deals absurd damage later on with him, grasp actually scales to good damage and is worth takeing, and ZZrot'S voidlings rip towers apart like nothing. And his Ult with fulltank built deals as much damage as AP cho's ult.

He's probably still to unreliable for hogher elos, but i can totally see how he causes frustration in lower elos.

Derfel2/27/2017, 2:11:04 AM2 votes

I don't know have you tried picking any of the 80 champs that counter him top lane and not feeding?

Lord Desert2/26/2017, 9:42:28 PM2 votes

Trust me there are alot of counters to cho! Also this "buff" nerfed his midgame powerspike, he lost up to 360HP and his stacking time and window of weakness(ult on cd) got doubled too, so he is alot easier to beat inlane too xD His playrate increased a lot but his winrate still stays at 45% and worse at best xD So you dont need to fear the allmighty Omnomnomer. This buff was basicly a powershift into the lategame, which doesnt really exist in the current meta xD

Also I dislike that he cant lose stacks, he should lose 1 or 2 on death, but below 6 stacks he should get the old ulti back!

Illâoi Evê Siôn2/26/2017, 9:21:00 PM1 votes

item 3151 item 3153 item 1419 But Cho'Gath is easy to kite. He should melt even if he has 500 more Health than a Tank because he doesn't have anything to keep that Health up.

CHEESYLEEKS2/26/2017, 9:30:34 PM1 votes

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Profirix2/26/2017, 9:31:20 PM1 votes

Kog used to be the Cho counter...Kindred too... Its just that these champs are not good at present.

MrHaZeYo2/26/2017, 9:34:53 PM1 votes

Vayne says hai.

Golden Tager X2/26/2017, 11:40:49 PM1 votes

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BlackFlux2/27/2017, 2:17:20 AM1 votes

even then his offensive capability's stay the same as any other champion. and max size stacks can be a pain to get with the cool no longer being halved is you kill something with it,and there are diminishing returns so eventually at like 10 stacks every other stack is I think 80 HP. he generally gets 4K HP late game with some pretty high regen,but like every champ he has cooldowns so dodge his two skills and try to NOT be under 300-i think 500 HP and all he can do is auto for the next like 7 or so seconds

GigglesO2/27/2017, 2:20:59 AM1 votes

Trundle - I like those stats you have, I'll be using those Vayne - hp, what hp? Malzahar- liandris rylis dot Brand- passive op Irelia- I can just outlast you Fiora- %hp true damage Graves- can attack through 400 armor Kayle- what resistances, can build bork with as KogMaw- hp kill MasterYi- bork, with jungle item or last wisperor upgrade XinZhao- armor kill passive can buid bork plus jungle itme Kalista- get enough rend stacks profit

TheTarians2/26/2017, 9:06:00 PM1 votes

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Mighty Mortein2/27/2017, 3:46:38 AM1 votes

If Cho'gath misses his Q/W, he gets kited easier than a Mordekaiser without rylais. Plus, with all the %hp damage in the game, a lot of HP won't do much if you cant get to your target.

420 grams2/26/2017, 9:07:28 PM1 votes

He has lower damage, his q is easy to dodge,and his hit box is huge so it's easy to hit him with stuff

Guyy Fieri2/26/2017, 9:08:21 PM1 votes

Anyone with any sort of percent health damage lul...also if you have a team with any sort of kitability cho'gath would have such a hard time getting to his intended targets and he doesn't damage tanks easily

Joxcab2/26/2017, 9:09:35 PM1 votes

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CancerBasedGod2/26/2017, 9:19:11 PM1 votes

Fiora Warwick Camille DrMundo Ekko Gnar JarvanIV Kindred KogMaw Malzahar Shyvana Shen Varus Vayne Vi % Health damage is everywhere.

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Fiora is the big one because the % true essentially means her ult is instant dead cho.