Thanks for placing me in Bronze III Riot

Privileged Jew·Dec 28, 2016·1 votes·586 views

Where winning if you're a support main is based primarily on whether or not another lane doesn't feed because ADC's are practically braindead and have no carry potential in this league.

Oh and there's a feeder in every bronze match, so it's basically like flipping a coin.

So essentially I have no choice but to play a non-support champion that can hard carry because that's the only way I'm getting out of elo hell. Cool.

Bronze: Where every fucking game is played like "team deathmatch," and any attempts to get your team to play the objective over chasing someone across the map are in vain.

15 Comments

Ad Vitam AeternaDec 28, 20162 votes

The highest you've been over the last 3 seasons is Silver 3, and last season you placed silver 5. You fell two measly divisions while most people fell two whole tiers, aka 10 divisons. You couldn't carry too well in in low Silver as a support either, Mid Bronze won't be any different.

Edit; Just noticed you play carry ap supports as well. You can carry games with absolute ease as Lux and Zyra support in that elo, so blaming riot and bad teammates just makes you look sad.

Privileged JewDec 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ad Vitam Aeterna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j9tlfMXI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-12-28T14:26:33.057+0000)

The highest you've been over the last 3 seasons is Silver 3, and last season you placed silver 5. You fell two measly divisions while most people fell two whole tiers, aka 10 divisons. You couldn't carry too well in in low Silver as a support either, Mid Bronze won't be any different.

Edit; Just noticed you play carry ap supports as well. You can carry games with absolute ease as Lux and Zyra support in that elo, so blaming riot and bad teammates just makes you look sad.

Yeah they're only good in teamfights, but please - tell someone with 260K experience on Zyra how easy it must be to carry with an immobile support mage in situations where everyone is running around the map and refuses to play the objective.

Ad Vitam AeternaDec 28, 20161 votes

You tried to make yourself seem knowledgeable by saying you have 206k mastery points on her when all that does is make you look incredibly bad considering you still can't carry with her.

Privileged JewDec 28, 20161 votes

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You tried to make yourself seem knowledgeable by saying you have 206k mastery points on her when all that does is make you look incredibly bad considering you still can't carry with her.

Do you know how incredibly arrogant you carry yourself? Holy shit, I wish you could see yourself in the mirror. The Latin username, your post history, the way you condescendingly make remarks to pretty much everyone you come into contact with- not only on this post. It's really easy to spot these kinds of things you know.

The highest I've been was Silver II, last season, and then near the end I started playing jungle and began losing matches because it's not a role I'm good with. I know the difference between mid to high silver, and mid bronze. Whether or not I'm able to get into high elo with Zyra is irrelevant to whether or not there is a discernible difference between silver and bronze in terms of what you need to be effective.

Ad Vitam AeternaDec 28, 20161 votes

Some people deserved to be talked down to when they make idiotic posts that have been proven false so many times by other people getting out of the situation the person was bitching about.

Privileged JewDec 28, 20161 votes

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Some people deserved to be talked down to when they make idiotic posts that have been proven false so many times by other people getting out of the situation the person was bitching about.

I never claimed it was impossible, only that it was very, very hard with certain champions in certain roles. As Zyra support, it has been my observation in Season 7 that it is tough. And I'm not the only one to have had trouble with carrying bronze matches from the support role, so get off of your high horse. How some diamond+ player managed to easily get out of bronze is irrelevant to how the majority of support players, who belong in silver, or gold, or even platinum fared in the same task.

Ad Vitam AeternaDec 28, 20161 votes

You said it's a coin flip when that's false. If you are good enough you can easily carry out with Zyra. Shame I don't own Zyra on any of my smurfs otherwise I'd tank the account to bronze 5 and show you how fast I can carry out by making laning phase utter hell for the enemy bot lane and deleting their carries late game in teamfights.

Privileged JewDec 28, 20161 votes

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You said it's a coin flip when that's false. If you are good enough you can easily carry out with Zyra. Shame I don't own Zyra on any of my smurfs otherwise I'd tank the account to bronze 5 and show you how fast I can carry out by making laning phase utter hell for the enemy bot lane and deleting their carries late game in teamfights.

What teamfights? Again, a ton of bronze matches have players roaming around the map all game. You're gonna make the laning phase utter hell, get your ADC fed, and then it's going to amount to nothing because again - adcs at this elo lack the mechanics to be effective. And if you get fed, good luck being able to utilize it when your primary strength is AOE damage and disruption for teamfights (that aren't happening no matter how much you beg your team to group up). Unless you're playing something that can both be there for, and win, the skirmishes, or splitpush, or secure objectives, you're going to have a hard time with an unresponsive team.

Also, when I said it was a coin flip, were you honestly taking that in a literal sense? Ever heard of hyperbole? I know there are other factors, but a lot of it is just shit you can't control for.

Ad Vitam AeternaDec 28, 20161 votes

Thats total bullshit. I've played in bronze, they team fight. I had a 20-21 game win streak in bronze last year getting my friend out of it. That was top lane but I guarantee I would have had the same success as a support like Zyra and I know how Bronze play.

You keep saying people run after kills and shit like that has anything to do with anything when you are good enough to solo carry. newsflash, it doesn't. As a Zyra you should 100 percent shut down the enemy bot lane, if they arnen't 0-5 by 10 mins and down 30-50 cs you failed as a support Zyra. Even people in high elo have trouble against Zyra's pressure/poke in the bot lane, bronze laners are going to fair much worse. Their bot lane being 100 percent shut down means the game is at least a 3 vs 5. Zyra can instaburst any carry with her when she gets ahead so mid game if you arne't instantly deleting the carries thats on you.

RaijeDec 28, 20161 votes

I tried to play champs I'm bad in flex queue and ended up in gold 3, now I can't play with my friends. I feel you, bro.

ZezockaryDec 28, 20161 votes

I have carried with support champions in the support role before. Entire fights we would have easily lost if I were not healing/buffing/peeling. Dragons we wouldn't have gotten if I hadn't warded them. Teams that would have raged on each other and quit if I hadn't tried calming them down.

I don't even play support that often.

Privileged JewDec 28, 20161 votes

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I have carried with support champions in the support role before. Entire fights we would have easily lost if I were not healing/buffing/peeling. Dragons we wouldn't have gotten if I hadn't warded them. Teams that would have raged on each other and quit if I hadn't tried calming them down.

I don't even play support that often.

Teamfights? There are teamfights in bronze? All I've ever seen are skirmishes because everyone refuses to group.

ZezockaryDec 28, 20161 votes

It is easier to have them if you keep vision up so that you can take objectives when they are out of position, which forces them to either group and fight you or lose. Skirmishes are even better for you as a support though, because being at bot lane and having decent movement speed from the roaming masteries (since you don't need the one for damage against minions), and you can opt into the talisman of ascension, you can often catch up before your teammates overextend and the fights go sour. That also lets you use your supportive skills, which often offer movement speed (lulu, nami, bard, sona, etc) or cc (morgana, janna, thresh, ivern, etc) to help end the skirmish quicker and with a lower failure rate.

ShadòwDec 28, 20161 votes

"Elo Hell"

SGT Dingle BerryDec 28, 20161 votes

Support carry isn't an IN YOUR FACE carry, your teammates won't even notice you carried them, but when your brain dead team all walk away alive after a fight YOU know it was because of your shields/healing/peeling/warding.

I can't count how many deaths I've kept from happening these last couple weeks, deaths that = gold in the enemy pocket and down time for my team. Each and every save adds up, whether directly by using abilities or indirectly by providing vision and helping your team by not having to face check every bush.

You should try an actual support champ, you'd be surprised.