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Veigar and his Ultimate

Lord Boltrix··7 votes·556 views

Honestly, I don't see the point in trying to make Veigar an anti-mage by shoehorning in enemy AP ratios, other than arguably his AoE stun (which simply punishes immobile targets in general, mages just happen to be a trend of such), nothing in his kit is anti-mage.

This isn't me complaining about Veigar bursting, I am actually completely fine with Veigar being able to delete people, he has weaknesses that limits him meaningfully in return for all that damage.

I just have a problem with his ultimate, in trying to make him anti-mage like Kassadin - whose entire kit is designed to counter mages - rather than trying to give anti-mage bits to all of his abilities, they just put everything 'anti-mage' into his ultimate.

If they put in other things to his abilities to enhance him and make him into an anti-mage, I wouldn't mind it being there as it would fit his kit, but as it is, it's just like trying to give Rengar enemy bonus AD ratios in his ultimate and calling him an anti-ADC.

6 Comments

Saianna2 votes

Veigar used to "steal" part of enemys AP as his passive aura.

That was pretty cool anti-mage mechanic imo.

Gorgannan2 votes

Kassadin isn't really an anti mage anymore. The bubble on his Q and his passive just help him survive vs. mages, but after the silence removal and base damage gutting, he's just an anti squishy.

Lord Boltrix1 votes

Well even if they removed his silence, his kit still functions to counter mages, from his passive meant specifically to deal with magic damage, to being a melee mage who thrives on getting close and personal with his opponents, to being able to poke and shield in the same move, to being able to riftwalk and close said distance with mages (who prefer to fight from a distance) to being able to massive slow in a limited area depending on how often spells are cast in his vicinity (again, something mages tend to do a lot of).

I honestly think if they had put his silence in his Force Pulse, and his slow on his Null Sphere, he could have a conditional silence that can't be abused so easily during the laning phase.

DrCabes1 votes

I play a lot of Veigar and wish they would change his ult. The enemy ratio just feels cheesy and I never really considered that aspect of Veigar to be his identity. Veigar is a stun and burst the enemy squishy champ, not an "anti-mage", at least in my opinion. It's almost like a noob trap to trick new players to only ult the apc and no one else.

GlockHammer1 votes

I just wish they'd nerf his *ss back to unviableness so I wouldn't have to deal with that cancer every 1 out of 2 games.

I can't fucking believe Veigar mains were actually screaming for buffs just a few months back, time passes, nothing changes and all of a suden he's FoTM cancer. They should simply revert his stacking mechanism back to 1 stack max per Q, before he actually had to get somewhat close to stack, now he just stacks from tower range and at twise the rate, making him stack up on AP somewhat ridiculously fast. I was fine with lategame Veigar deleting everything, midgame veigar should not be oneshotting tanks.

fééd l0rd1 votes

Veigar has a lot of freestats and tools to keep him safe. he is syndra 2.0. he does everything better, faster easier.

I dont think this is fair.. his kit is poorly designed and the recent buffs were not necessary.

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