Opinions on Mejais Soulstealer

Restless Slumber·Feb 8, 2016·1 votes·795 views

So lately I've made this item core on my Diana and Nidalee since I don't one to build RoA on these champs. It gives flat mans up front and can help snowball if you've already started. My friend who mains Anivia builds it in every game he plays because of how much utility it gives with the mans and MS at 15 stacks. And let's not forget that it has the potential of giving 145 AP total. Please give your opinions on the item and tell me if you build it consistently on any champions.

7 Comments

Best KhaZix VoidFeb 8, 20162 votes

it's fucking busted and the Dark Seal is a stupid idea for an item they removed SOTO but they keep this bullshit? Fuck you riot

AbyssphereFeb 8, 20163 votes

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it's fucking busted and the Dark Seal is a stupid idea for an item they removed SOTO but they keep this bullshit? Fuck you riot

It's possible for Mejai's to be viable, it's not possible for SOTO to be viable. That's why they removed the latter and not the former.

It Mejai's is busted then they can nerf it, but they could never have made Sword of the Occult viable without it being ridiculous.

Best KhaZix VoidFeb 8, 20161 votes

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It's possible for Mejai's to be viable, it's not possible for SOTO to be viable. That's why they removed the latter and not the former.

It Mejai's is busted then they can nerf it, but they could never have made Sword of the Occult viable without it being ridiculous.

SotO was healthier than Mejais SotO actually had risk associated with it, you don't have brainless waveclear pokefests with the AD champions that built SOTO.

AbyssphereFeb 8, 20161 votes

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SotO was healthier than Mejais SotO actually had risk associated with it, you don't have brainless waveclear pokefests with the AD champions that built SOTO.

No. SOTO fanboys need to realise that it's possible for things to be too risky in this game and excessive risk is almost always unhealthy - most assassins that have been reworked in the past have been given reworks because they were too risky and as a result the reward was ridiculous when the risk paid off. SOTO was "Feed or 1v5 carry - the item" and that's not a thing Riot is supporting anymore.

SOTO was a weaker item than Mejai's because it was so much riskier to stack but that did the exact opposite of making it healthier because it meant that you just never considered the item unless you were a 20/0 Rengar/Zed/Talon/Kha. And if you bought the item as a massively fed AD assassin then you spent the entire game one-shotting people in half a second and it was a complete nightmare for the enemy team. If you weren't fed enough to do that then you were consistently losing stacks by dying as you went in and it was a huge waste of gold.

Mejai's can be stacked with reasonably safety by a couple of champions and none of the champions who do stack it consistently turn into one-shotting 1v5 beasts with it. It's more usable and yet less impactful when used. Mejai's is an item that can actually be used by people without it completely destroying the game and because of that you can actually balance it around the level of impact that it's allowed to have on people like Lux and various AP supports. That was never true of SOTO.

tl;dr Mejai's is an item that is actually possible to use on certain champions in certain circumstances. SOTO wasn't viable on a single champion and could never be allowed to be viable on anyone. Unless you're someone who genuinely believes "Talon is the healthiest assassin!", it should be obvious which is the better designed item.

YumaS2AstralFeb 8, 20162 votes

This item on my opinion is worthless because you are required to constantly mantain a lead and not die to be able to make this item useful. Avoiding death is extremely difficult, even if you are very fed. Other items can be as useful if not more, without the drawbacks of Mejai's Soulstealer. While this item has the potential to give a lot of AP, it is not like you could just get other AP items. For example, Rabadon is much more expensive than Mejai but you don't lose any AP if you die and this item only gets better the more AP you have. As for other AP items, they tend to usually have secondary effects or stats that make them much more useful than Mejai even though they potentially give less AP.

Even if you manage to get enough stacks, Mejai only offers AP and movement speed. You might as well buy a item 3285 because this item gives movement speed and AP, you don't lose them if you die, and it also gives a nice passive that allows you to burst better and waveclear better.

Even before the changes, I would already consider this item worthless. While the 15% CDR was nice, I could just get a item 3158 , item 3165 or item 3174 , and combine them with the Sorcery mastery to get 40% CDR.

CatboyAsbelFeb 8, 20161 votes

yeah its broken since you can start it now.

MunchCrunchLunchFeb 8, 20161 votes

i had 4 fully stacked soulstealers on blitzcrank bot lane support. but i dont use it on anyone else. sure you can get an early huge lead with it but it doesn't have much utility.