carefree junglers who dont see the danger of having trydamere/olaf in your game

trydamere and olaf , are champs you have to be wary off, escpially if you have to pick first and they get pick later to make this worser, if you get a carefree jungler, they will simply not gank you or well they prob never played versus them

its so annoying, even if i tell them, how dangerous the lanes becomes at lv 6 , or if olaf has ghost they simply dont listen, they dont even bother counter ganking, and im forced to stay in lane, unless i play pantheon, since once trydamere gets those 2 low cost items, he can melt down turrets honestly at this point, the amount of fools, who dont know how strong their lv 6 can be , should go experience them itself , and see how strong their impact is , if you let your top laner alone, and leave the lane free to ganks etc

sincerely , an annoyed top laner