Any "viable" champ worth checking out?

DamSonWhUFndThis·Jan 20, 2020·1 votes·1,810 views

I want champion that is "viable" for my conditions, it doesn't matter the playstyle or lane but mostly the criteria. He has to be able carry 1v9, he has to be able fight fed Sett with fed ADC like Vayne Kaisa alike and with 1 tank and 2 or instead of tank 1 more assasin or fighter. Minding that at least 3 people in the enemy team are fed and relying on your team is more dangerous than link some guy with japaneese letters sent you so pure 1v27 champ that could pull it off...

Does he even exist? Yes my games are that bad - sometimes. Yes I'm not joking. No it won't get better.... it was like this last season what makes this season diffrent? the number nothing else and more champions....

22 Comments

iiGazeiiJan 20, 20202 votes

The vast majority of games boil down to the players, not the champions. There isn't some magic champion that you just haven't unlocked yet that will win you all of your games.

Until you hit Diamond+, everything is viable. Nobody is playing their champions anywhere near optimally.

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

not really but the good players are obviously minor to the amount of bad players you get every single game :P

kda akaliJan 21, 20202 votes

Riven Akali Irelia high outplay potential + safety + mobility if you can play them correctly you can kill a fed carry easily

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 22, 20201 votes

thx Akali

KrynnˉJan 20, 20201 votes

There are quite a few top laners that can quite literally 1v9 games up to like mid Diamond if you're good enough. Even if the whole enemy team comes for you and you have an AFK, it's still possible to win.

These champions are, but aren't limited to: Riven Fiora Camille Jax Irelia and to a lesser extent Renekton .

All of these champions have the tools in their kit to grab a game by the balls and if you're good with them, can make it difficult for you to lose a lead once you get one.

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

Are you sure Jax and Irelia? I feel weak playing Jax and I hardly see Irelia in my games actually never, what about playing some of these in jungle?

KrynnˉJan 22, 20202 votes

Watch TF Blade. He plays mostly Jax and Irelia and has gotten to rank 1 in NA, LAS, EU, etc. So these champions are defiantly good for 1v9ing games.

ProphetOfDravenJan 20, 20201 votes

Ryze is the champion you want. EQ to chunk the entire enemy backline in two abilities. EWQ for important targets you want to lockdown. Usually if you want to 1v5 fights never go in yourself first and never get caught. Let the enemy waste all their cooldowns ( especially ults ) on your allies so they are actually useful then show up and clean everybody up while they cant retaliate.

Also a big part of 1v9ing is starting to 1v9 from the early game. Ryze is a great roamer with a point and click root and a medium range teleport. Even if your teammates are hard inting you will be able to 2v1 their fed laner and grab that juicy shutdown gold.

Ryze is amazing and unique in the fact that he's a hyper carry due to his insane damage while also having a point and click CC that allows him to completely shutdown fed enemies especially assassins. He also gets to build defensive items like item 3040 item 3027 item 3157 item 3110 item 3001 etc without losing much damage. Though I typically build him like an APC with item 3089 item 3020 item 3165 .

God I love this champion he has fucking everything. Damage, Utility, Mobility, Survivability.

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

gonna think about Ryze boy in situations of dare, thank you

WoonStruckJan 21, 20201 votes

Vlad is more reliable if played optimally due to his safety. Also easier to get consistent on.

If you use your resources well, you will hit 2 items and be able to flash on an adc and 1 shot them and half the enemy's team hp regardless of how fed they are.

You will feel weak early game, but you can get to the point where you're enough of a force to stall out games until you 1v9.

There is no easy path outside of maybe absolute mastery of akali atm.

ProphetOfDravenJan 21, 20201 votes

Vlad is way worse for 1v9ing than Ryze. With Vlad your entire team will be shoved in the dirt by 15 minutes. With Ryze you still have a safe laning phase while also getting better waveclear earlier into the game. That allows you to use your teleport ultimate to roam basically whenever you want.

RyzeReworkJan 20, 20201 votes

If you spend a lot of time with riven or katarina you can easily 1v5 but you need allot of work and figure out their various mechanics and what you should do in the right situation. But bewhere if you get high elo playing these champs they get banned/picked more often in high elo because of the amount of one tricks

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

yeah OTP is always an option but I don't like the idea of getting banned of your Champ making you much weaker cause you don't play him... plus I find to smash all OTP's regardless of their points perhaps maining unbanned champion but most of them are just boring or get countered by existing

AlienPrimateJan 21, 20201 votes

I think a one man carry is mostly impossible no matter the champion. However, Yi can easily carry as long as he at least has a team who can eat some cooldowns for him before he goes in. His team doesn't even have to be good, they just have to exist to make sure he isn't the one who gets stunned at the start of the fight. He can meditate to negate most of a fed assassin's combo, he can just dodge abilities like Sett's W, and he has the mobility to stick to mobile enemy carries while being able to kill anyone in the game no matter their build because of his true damage. He is also probably the only carry who can afford to build 2 tank items with defensive boots and still have the damage to hard carry. If you plan to play him, I highly suggest watching Cowsep on either twitch or youtube. He has very good educational content and is always talking about his thought process.

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

I watched Cowsep before he is very cool one of my favourite

KlydeFrogJan 21, 20201 votes

Ww or olaf or udyr are your friends. Ww udyr can go ap if need be so variety is good.

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

ww is weak I just played him..

KlydeFrogJan 21, 20201 votes

your polaying him wrong then and runes are wrong then. if you go top max q first always, jungle max w always unless ur going ap then max q, me i always take grasp cause q procs it and such

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 21, 20201 votes

just because I say he is weak doesn't mean I don't know runes or how to play him

VonCesawJan 22, 20201 votes

Regular highest winrate champs (Iron+) Taric Nami Yorick Singed Diana

Regular highest winrate champs (Platinum+) Taric AurelionSol Singed Ivern Bard

50+ games with champion highest winrate (Iron+) AurelionSol Cassiopeia Lissandra Taric Sett

50+ games with champion highest winrate (Platinum+) Lissandra Olaf Viktor Braum Jayce

Highest winrates 2/0 or 3/1 10 minutes (Iron+) Nami Taric Janna Swain Soraka

Highest winrates 2/0 or 3/1 10 minutes (Platinum+) Soraka Nami Taric Kassadin Alistar

Highest winrates after 0/2 or 1/3 at 10 minutes (Iron+) Singed Taric Maokai Yorick Sion

Highest winrates after 0/2 or 1/3 at 10 minutes (Platinum+) Taric Maokai DrMundo Sion Leona

Regular lowest winrate champs (Iron+) Irelia Qiyana Azir Akali Ryze

Regular lowest winrate champs (Platinum+) Irelia Ryze Corki (mid) Yuumi Amumu

50+ games with champion lowest winrate (Iron+) Ryze Corki TahmKench Ezreal Trundle

50+ games with champion lowest winrate (Platinum+) Morgana Annie Sion Leblanc Galio

Lowest winrates 2/0 or 3/1 10 minutes (Iron+) Pantheon Akali TahmKench Qiyana LeeSin

Lowest winrates 2/0 or 3/1 10 minutes (Platinum+) Corki Gnar Udyr Akali Irelia

Lowest winrates after 0/2 or 1/3 at 10 minutes (Iron+) LeeSin Nidalee Qiyana Khazix Hecarim

Lowest winrates after 0/2 or 1/3 at 10 minutes (Platinum+) Hecarim LeeSin Gragas XinZhao Udyr

DamSonWhUFndThisJan 22, 20201 votes

imagine putting winrates in, meta is not everything for example Lee Sin might be low but what about how many players play him? a good Lee Sin is deadly to everyone, also I'm not looking to buy him in near future tho, also people complain about lee being good and the low winrate is caused by bad lee sins

VonCesawJan 22, 20201 votes

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imagine putting winrates in, meta is not everything for example Lee Sin might be low but what about how many players play him? a good Lee Sin is deadly to everyone, also I'm not looking to buy him in near future tho, also people complain about lee being good and the low winrate is caused by bad lee sins

A good/fed Lee Sin is less likely to win against a good/fed Taric Pointing to single examples as a norm does not hold water when trends say otherwise