QoL - Make abilities which are casted out of range cast at max range

Kumiho Ahri·3/22/2019, 12:43:57 PM·45 votes·14,428 views

Some ablilities like Syndras and Oriannas Q have this issue. If you aim slightly out of range you will walk to it until you are in range to cast it. I prefer when the ability is cast immediately at max range instead.

43 Comments

Warlord Rhinark3/22/2019, 12:54:50 PM41 votes

They should make this an option in settings for every champion to be honest.

Oleandervine3/22/2019, 2:10:20 PM14 votes

I don't. It's incredibly jarring when this happens, because such a shift has occurred with how Aurelion Sol's E works. When you want to cast something to a certain point, I want it to go to that point, even if I need to walk in range of it. It's completely pointless to have your spell randomly cast at max range if you select a point outside of your range, because then you obviously won't have cast your spell where you needed it to be. For instance, if you needed to place Orianna's ball in a bush that was out of range, if you cast at the bush, you'd randomly throw the ball at the bush, and not land it.

Aurelion Sol's E was changed like this, and it made it more useless, IMO. If I wanted to go to a specific point on the map, I preferred Aurelion moving to where his E was in range, and then cometing across the map to that point once he got there. Now if you press E on the map, he immediately starts it, comets as far as he can go, not even getting you close to where you wanted to go.

This kind of function is not practical, and will cause way too many fuck ups for no reason. Moving your champion to the range of where you've selected to then cast to that range is much more functional and works way better in doing what you need your skills to do.

Myrmiron3/22/2019, 1:13:05 PM12 votes

Malphite ult as well, very annoying when there's a wall in the way and autopathing takes the most ridiculous way around it just because you aimed a pixel too far ahead.

Dorans Pants3/22/2019, 7:53:22 PM7 votes

the ability to combat unintuitive mechanics like this shouldn´t be seen as skill expression anyway in my opinion. Sniping the edge of a circle with the risk that your ability may or may not get casted is such a weird skill to focus on. That´s like saying attack-move should be removed because it takes away the skill of frequently and accurately switching between two targets with your mouse.

I get that players want to get rewarded for correct micromanaging but I wouldn´t draw the line there.

nm10103/22/2019, 1:11:24 PM4 votes

Things that make complete sense, but won't be implemented.

P0IS0N IVY3/22/2019, 9:10:51 PM4 votes

Please make this a toggle. I don't mind if other people want it, but I definitely don't like it. I hate it when an ability gets cast at max range instead of going where I want it to go.

Sir Rouge3/22/2019, 4:10:11 PM4 votes

As a Syndra main, I both agree and disagree with this.

Agree: It would definitely feel better to play. Disagree: It's part of the champions' skill cap. For Syndra specifically, it would make her QE easier, and her EQ easy instead of hard.

Personally, I wouldn't want it on Syndra because of this.

The Skáld3/22/2019, 4:37:07 PM4 votes

I wouldn't want it tho. Because that's what determines qualified players.

Morticianjohn3/22/2019, 1:47:25 PM4 votes

I fully support this idea, please implement

Joseraph3/22/2019, 3:41:57 PM2 votes

Some champs like this though. If you ult on Annie out of its range, then flash into Range it deploys tibbers immediately on that spot

DaCurtis3/23/2019, 6:39:31 AM2 votes

Make it an option.

Yorick had this issue with his wall that it would cast whenever you press it. Players hated it.

Rıots Bad Client3/22/2019, 6:04:06 PM2 votes

same goes for zilean Q, its just far to annoying. like I hate the "Muh skill expression"

I played enough zilean to know his range, however when I'm trying to kite, I would like to just throw the q without making my champion just walk backwards a pixle just because I was just outside the boundary. I fee there is no skill sometimes in knowing the boundary just luck you get a max range ability.

It feels like your gonna have a shit time if the champion isnt broken, or you one trick it. I like this suggestion as it opens it up to newer players play new champions without throwing them at a disadvantage of learning the stupid range of every ability for every champion.

TheFortex3/23/2019, 5:03:27 AM2 votes

I prefer if its a toggleable option in settings

because sometimes i want both so i would change it based on the champ im playing

Naono3/23/2019, 8:07:53 PM2 votes

Everyone made valid arguments of why it would and wouldn't be a good idea.

I think a toggle option as many stated would be the best implementation.

Ahri Baka3/24/2019, 12:11:54 PM1 votes

God knows how many times I failed Syndra Q E because of that , and Ori Q R too , fml

PaffWasTaken3/22/2019, 2:50:03 PM1 votes

Oh god just put it on Viktor on too, pleaaaaaaaaase. Casting it while trying to precisely trace the line at max range will almost always result in you cancelling it since it can be cast while moving

ImpossibleGT3/22/2019, 4:02:17 PM1 votes

J4 got this change to his flag awhile ago.

MrGerund3/22/2019, 6:01:41 PM1 votes

this is done on karthus during death defied, and isnt done for every champion with the simple reason of it wasting cooldowns, you could have a very long debate on which champion needs it and which doesn't to be fair

Metal Janna3/22/2019, 7:51:12 PM1 votes

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Some ablilities like Syndras and Oriannas Q have this issue. If you aim slightly out of range you will walk to it until you are in range to cast it. I prefer when the ability is cast immediately at max range instead.

There are definitely times when landing Ori's Q slightly off because your character didn't want to walk before casting it would be bad though. I'm all for it iff (not a spelling error) it's optional.

Eldeazar3/22/2019, 8:29:10 PM1 votes

That happens with AoE's and I think it rewards aiming and knowledge of your ranges. I understand your point but I don't see the issue, if you want the skill casted at max range; cast it at max range

Z3Sleeper3/22/2019, 9:47:34 PM1 votes

This works for some abilities and not so much for others. It's a case by case basis.

BigFBear3/23/2019, 1:13:55 AM1 votes

They changed it for Jarvan's E too, years ago and it was so much better afterwards.

I approve this post.

oortoomeebreesuu3/23/2019, 3:30:53 AM1 votes

This would be a greater yorick buff than the change to his Ult, can't cast Yorick's E for crap

Emo Twink3/23/2019, 5:45:25 AM1 votes

I've died with this before trying to cast it over drag pit..

SanKakU3/24/2019, 12:51:53 AM1 votes

For some abilities this would make no sense but for these I agree, this would help a lot.