Just a quick jungler poll
Im looking for a new jungler, and i can't decide who to pick up. Here's a poll with my choices. Feel free to leave any other as a comment.
(here are ones i have)

Im looking for a new jungler, and i can't decide who to pick up. Here's a poll with my choices. Feel free to leave any other as a comment.
(here are ones i have)

For the love of god and all that is holy not Zac
I'm thinking maybe lee sin
He's pretty bad in the Season 5 jungle. People only QQ over him because its popular to circlejerk about it
No, people QQ because nobody likes seeing him every other game
Jinx, Graves, Leona, Thresh, Morgana, and Blitz have higher pick rates than Lee Sin right now. Number of QQ threads about these champs: 0
How many of them have been every viable every single season theyve been out? 1? 2 maybe?
Every single one of them has been Viable since release lol
Im sorry i meant above average, my bad. And on a sidenote, graves was weak for a long while when his ult sucked, jinx isint far above average, havent been around long enough to judge morg. Blitz is purely average, and thresh will never be below above average because of his kit.
So yeah, they all have been VIABLE since release, but not far above average constantly. (minus thresh)
Graves was always viable. It just didnt make sense to play him over casters like Corki and Lucian before they got some nerfs
Hence not above average like corny and lucian
Not being exceptional doesn't make them unviable though
Im talking about above average. Every champ is viable, urgot, yorick and ad malz are all viable. Just not far above average.
Gonna have to disagree. Being viable and being severely underpowered are two very different things
My point is, people dont qq about lee if they know what their talking about. They qq because hes been top or near top tier every season hes been out.
Jinx, Graves, Leona, Thresh, Morgana, and Blitz have higher pick rates than Lee Sin right now.
None of those are junglers.
Also seen plenty of QQ threads in the past, but recent patches has made people focus on other things. Sona players (and other squishy supports) don't like seeing one of those five every game either, so you got a point.
But Lee Sin is the most popular jungler...
Ok, if we want to get technical:
Jarvan is played in 24.6% of the games that he's not banned Vi gets picked in 36.3% of the games that she's not banned Nidalee gets picked in 50.0% of the games that shes not banned Lee gets picked in 24.6% of the games that he's not banned
So is he really the most popular jungler?
Those three junglers get banned the most.
So Lee Sin gets picked typically as a result when they're banned.
He's not the strongest jungler anymore, but he's up there.
shrug
I'll be honest, though. I play Vi plenty, but I've made it a point to pick up some more junglers so I wouldn't have to rely on the god-tier.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm just trying to bring up some other point of views others have. And those non-jungler champions you've mentioned? Been annoyed by them too until I learned how to handle them, just like Lee Sin. Like, my favorite is Sejuani, but the gloves are off and I take Vi if the enemy team takes Lee Sin.
I'm not even a support or adc main and I'm beyond sick of seeing Jinx, Graves and Leona.
I have Jinx and Leona and I prefer Braum thanks to it.
Jinx? Eh... I like her because of the music video and her in-game quotes and such, but her popularity is pretty annoying, so I picked up Caitlyn just to take a break from time to time.
Vi is the best right now. She clears, ganks, and teamfights really well, can go either damage or bruiser tank, and has a bunch of mobility on a low cd.
If you don't like her, Reksai is pretty great too. She trades some CC for better vision and mobility, but otherwise does a similar job.
Lee sin is strong, but unless you're diamond, you're not going o to know what to do with your 10 kills sub-20 minutes, you're going to fall off, and your team is going to lose.
Secretly, though, Zac is going to come back pretty strong once cinderhulk hits the rift next patch. He looooves bonus health amplifiers. Same with voli, assuming you get a righteous glory to go with him. His W is gonna deal stupid damage.
Unfortunately, Nidalee/Vi are the top two junglers right now. When I said I didn't want Lee to be the king of the jungle anymore, this isn't exactly what I had in mind >.>.
That said, lot of junglers are really good right now. Nautilus is decent, Gragas is good, Lee is (Of course) still solid, Sejuani is very good, etc.
sejuani is going to be very strong with the new jungle item, if she isn't already strong enough for you... voli will be much more popular as well as his bite (W) cooldown will be halved against jungle monsters. zac and other tank junglers will be getting some buffs in the near future, though the new jungle item may be what they meant by that. currently vi is very strong and rek sai is a very safe pick if you know how to play him and use the tremor sense.
sejuani is going to be very strong with the new jungle item, if she isn't already strong enough for you... voli will be much more popular as well as his bite (W) cooldown will be halved against jungle monsters. zac and other tank junglers will be getting some buffs in the near future, though the new jungle item may be what they meant by that. currently vi is very strong and rek sai is a very safe pick if you know how to play him and use the tremor sense.
this.
winrate wise, sejuani is the best jungler out there. you just need to learn properly how to jungle with her. (aka train a lot and test several rune/masteries combinations instead of just looking into "pro's" builds)
and rek sai is a very safe pick if you know how to play him
*her
Vi or udyr. Udyr is the best jg imo. Shield, stun, retarded move speed, att speed buff/dot, then a really strong aoe. His only fall back is he can be kited. But he gets really tanky and a ton of damage. Vi is good all around too. %hp damage, knockup dash, shield passive, aoe and great ult.
Do you have Xin Zhao? If not, get him. He can full-clear (using the scuttle crabs for W regen between jungle halves), gank lane, get a kill, solo dragon with his two pots, then back.
I mean... whistles No freelo jungle here.
Shyvana OP
You should consider panth. If you can figure out how to full clear while using his W proc'ing his passive, you should have a good time.
according to my diamond 5 jungle main friend, Sejuani is freelo right now. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=thograll
Skarner and Diana not listed. :(
Both have great AoE clear and can full clear + crab without an issue. Skarner is the tanky stickiness with insane speed and a suppression ult similar to Warwick's, while Diana just busts a cap in dat ass.
greatest of all bush wookies
is my go-to jungler right now. Easy first camp with boxes, followed by strong early pressure. Plus, it's fun having the tools to confuse your enemies.
nunu
