Make devourer better?

iamthegoatofwar·May 8, 2015·41 votes·1,807 views

I was thinking why not do what you guys did with feral flare? Before you bought the item that made wriggles lantern (looked like claws if i remember right) it would start stacking the jungle monsters towards feral for when you upgraded to wriggles. why not make it to where when we get out tier 2 jungle item it starts stacking regardless. If we decided something other than devourer the stacks will go away. If we decided devourer we won't have to take FOREVER to start getting some nice damage.

19 Comments

azrolatorMay 8, 20155 votes

Yep. Something. I think the nerf to it was a big mistake. You don't see it often and I rarely use it myself anymore. Used to be 40 magic damage that you won't lifesteal or spellvamp off of, This is a crappy more expensive version of wit's end to begin with before the nerf. The only good bit of it was stacking later on down the road if your laners didn't constantly kill off your whole jungle (which is unfortunately pretty rare). They could have put a cap on the upward limit, but instead the real problem of limitless potential is still there, and so is the problem of being the worst of the jg items when you buy it and for quite awhile afterwards.

Games are often over before you have enough stacks to justify buying it. It's only has bigger potential later in the game when you can't buy it with stacks already added on. I would much rather see the original stacks go back on it and have it scale more slowly or have a top stack limit. Which is pretty much what I have heard since they nerfed it quickly without enough thought just to nerf 1 champ.

iamthegoatofwarMay 8, 20151 votes

you know on the magic damage issue...since it's mostly ad champs that buy it why not make it physical damage? Your armor will still be effective vs it and they will get the ability to use lifesteal from it.

PartholonianMay 9, 20154 votes

Making it physical wouldn't make lifesteal work on it, since it's still a proc and not actually part of the AA damage. They might be able to reuse the code they just made for BotRK, though.

If they wanted to give it sustain again, they could just give it a small heal per hit (like Irelia's) -- maybe doubled against monsters, since it's still primarily a jungle item.

I think that making it physical would be a nerf -- most things including champions have more armor than they have MR. Although I suppose it might depend on how many Devourer builders also build ArPen.

The reason that mostly ad champs buy it is probably given that it's an AS item and there are very few champions that even have the option of AS/AP builds, let alone decent itemization for it.

BudupopsMay 8, 20154 votes

i still want s4 jg back Udyr item 3154

DONT NEEEED TEAMMay 8, 20152 votes

broken

BudupopsMay 9, 20151 votes

yep

SarchiaponMay 8, 20153 votes

Devourer will be buffed after WW's rework. It will not come anytime soon, however. Don't hold your breath about it...

PapaGreg21May 9, 20153 votes

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Bouffon dAnglaisMay 9, 20151 votes

Warwick has been nerfed since. And it wasnt really Devourer enchant that gave him so much power in the preseason- it was Challenging Smite's True Damage.

iamthegoatofwarMay 10, 20151 votes

warwick imo is the only one who can STILL use the damn thing effectively.

Buttigieg 2020May 8, 20151 votes

Riot HATES the afk farm jungle tactic. They want all junglers to be either gank monsters like LeeSin or tanks who gank and farm Sejuani . Farmers like Udyr and MasterYi have no place in the jungle. The problem is that they can't lane either, this makes the farmers completely useless as champions.

Death by WukongMay 9, 20151 votes

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Riot HATES the afk farm jungle tactic. They want all junglers to be either gank monsters like or tanks who gank and farm . Farmers like and have no place in the jungle. The problem is that they can't lane either, this makes the farmers completely useless as champions.

I'm 7/1 on Yi this season, he's fine. All comes down to picking intelligently, meaning last pick after you see they don't have too great of cc.

blueberrypancakeMay 9, 20151 votes

If they hate then why have it in the game?

Just a question...

Udyr can still be a farm jungler (Have you even heard of UOL who got 2nd in Eu because of Udyr jungle)

Yi I personally feel is gonna end up a mid laner in the skillshot delay meta because he can now dodge so much more than he could before wih his q and still deals lots of damage and can split push

Man now you put me in the mood to play Yi mid

Duke AnaxMay 9, 20151 votes

Riot specifically sated that they want a trinirty out of farming, ganging and counter junglers.

They only have an issue with farming junglers, becasue counter jungling isn't really a think yet.

Tis a nice dayMay 9, 20151 votes

+5 starting magic damage. That's all I ask.

CoolKnightSTMay 9, 20151 votes

What they could do is this:

UNIQUE - DEVOURING: Basic attacks deal 25 + (Devourer stacks) bonus magic damage. Scoring a champion kill or assist will grant 2 (+1/20 ingame minutes) Devourer stacks and killing a large monster will grant 1.

iamthegoatofwarMay 9, 20151 votes

hmmm could be intresting but then you could have a hardcore snowballing issue. I want devourer to be as strong as the others, not...a nasus q in an item.