lets discuss jungle nidalee...

iamthegoatofwar·Apr 18, 2015·9 votes·963 views

This bitch is so strong in the jungle right now...I can't back without fear of nidalee hitting a random spear.

She has a 4 second cd short range flash and an execute in her kit. It would help if she didn't have such a long range to leap to someone and then just hop away. Seriously if nidalee ever dies within the 1st 10 minutes of a match she's either very bad or she hit the wrong button.

Riot seriously fucking do something.

13 Comments

Silents429Apr 19, 20156 votes

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This bitch is so strong in the jungle right now...I can't back without fear of nidalee hitting a random spear.

She has a 4 second cd short range flash and an execute in her kit. It would help if she didn't have such a long range to leap to someone and then just hop away. Seriously if nidalee ever dies within the 1st 10 minutes of a match she's either very bad or she hit the wrong button.

Riot seriously fucking do something.

Wow man. You have shed so much light on this situation, that no one has done yet. I mean seriously they should put you as head in the balance team. I am envious of you and we all should be rightfully so.

I have never seen such a post so well constructed and so easy to discuss I mean look at all those points we could reply too. I am too blown away sadly to properly use my brain to comprehend such magnificence.

I am glad we have people like you on this forum to encourage proper healthy and non bias discussion of a champion for the better of the game.

n810mApr 18, 20155 votes

She got a major nerf to her base health. 40 less starting, 10 less per level. They should tone down the max of the execute a little imo tho, maybe lower heal ratio as well. Heal is annoying, not a major thematic and not key to gameplay, execute can get too out of hand sometimes.

Nidalee SO NYAAAApr 18, 20154 votes

When Nid leaps she can be still hooked so how is that a flash? Also your not even saying anything useful. Least if you think Nid is toxic tell Riot in a nice normal person way what they could change to make her healthy. Otherwise you just sound like your bitching

1st HanarSpectreApr 19, 20151 votes

He is bitching. Look at his match history, he rage quit a ranked game after going 0/4/0 with a Nidalee on the enemy team. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=iamthegoatofwar

Mister SupportApr 18, 20152 votes

A few points.

If anyone dies in the first 10 minutes of a match, something went horribly wrong, unless if it was through a sneaky invade.
You can't count her Pounce as a "short ranged flash" because of many things. It still gets affected by any skillshot or aoe in the path while flash is a blink. Flash is, as you said, further distance. And flash can be used just before the finishing of an abilities registration to either cancel it or alter the location of the skill. If you try this with Nidalee nothing happens.
4 seconds is far longer than the time used to kill most champions during the mid and late game. Which also the time of the cooldown is a bit off. It's 5 seconds, which is a big difference. It is reduced if she pounces to a marked target or kills a unit, but most junglers have some form of escape in their kits.
Any nidalee, not just a jungle nidalee, could roam to another location of the map to execute someone. Similar to most mages or execute type champions.
Please do not post a hate thread on a champion just because of some bad experiences. There are many ways to avoid her executing you early, and to shut her down. Remember, she is squishy as hell. Best way to beat a nidalee is to stay close her to so her spear doesn't hurt as bad if it hits, or stay far enough to avoid spears if you are ranged, and use CC to keep her still then burst her down.

iamthegoatofwarApr 18, 20153 votes

this isn't cause of some "bad experiences" she's a toxic champion to this game.

ShadyWolfeApr 18, 20152 votes

She is really good but she doesn't really need any nerfs she isn't an OP jungler only RekSai and Sejuani can be seen as OP. The only thing needed to be done to her is for rito to remove her invisible spear glitch.

1st HanarSpectreApr 19, 20152 votes

Her win rate currently is 48% nothing to write home about. All the cinderhulk units are crushing in the jungle, and unlike Nidalee, they typically have a shit ton of disables to fall back on if they ever get behind. http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Jungle

Spacesuit SpiffApr 18, 20151 votes

"Seriously if nidalee ever dies within the 1st 10 minutes of a match she';s either very bad or she hit the wrong button."

Even worse, you can countergank her and kill her twice in the first 10 minutes and she'll still be enormous all game. Sure sure people will go "omg just dodge the spear" and sure, not hard to do, but I'll still lose because my carries refuse to.

4nth0l0gyApr 18, 20151 votes

What's to discuss? Nerd her leap reset and remove her heal.

Nidalee SO NYAAAApr 18, 20152 votes

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What's to discuss? Nerd her leap reset and remove her heal. And replace the heal with what? You can't remove something without having something to replace it with.

4nth0l0gyApr 19, 20151 votes

I'm gonna level with you: she's as safe as she is because of her heal. It's the major reason her kit is overloaded.

I'm sure she can be compensated for it, but you have to admit there are problematic elements of her kit that cannot be worked around.

iamthegoatofwarApr 19, 20151 votes

her heal is not the issue imo it's non existent...unless she uses it on an adc. However it has a fairly high cd. It's her leap that kills it for me. It's just too much on such a low cd. She can be harder to catch than an udyr.