9.5 Vi changes are terrible

Elwe The Jungler·3/6/2019, 5:52:33 PM·2 votes·1,109 views

0.6 AD ratio loss and attack speed reduction for minor ult changes and +5% max health shield? (And clearing easily with Q, I guess?)

That doesn't help her with barely anything. Her shield changes won't help her stay alive for more than 0.5 seconds in a teamfight - which is where she has the biggest issues staying alive. She already had awesome clear on the jungle, no reason to buff that.

Vi was used only to burst a carry in a burst meta for bruisers... Now she will have a even harder time doing so and it's not like she can stay alive for significant more time.

Every Vi player I've seen talking about it seems sad and Riot said that they wanted to help with the changes, but they ended up making almost everyone unsatisfied. The only good change is the R change.

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The Ecdysiast3/6/2019, 6:26:38 PM4 votes

Copy/pasted from my response to another thread. Get your numbers straight before judging things off of one game:

First, both the spells having their ratios nerfed scale Bonus AD, which means that even at level 18 with a full build item 1400 item 3078 item 3053 item 3026 item 3742 item 3047 which for Vi only includes 192 total bonus AD, the spells lost only 58 and 38 damage, respectively.

Which in actuality, because the only lethality she has is Sudden Impact, was a loss of only 36 and 24 damage against the enemy with the lowest base armor in the game at level 18. Prior to that point though, the amount lost is less and less depending on both your level (with Sterak's) and your point in the build.

Definitely not enough to consider it a huge nerf. Especially, and most importantly, considering the fact it now no longer deals reduced damage to non-champions, which means a 41 damage increase at max charge rank 1, and the 2 damage she "lost" from scaling is actually completely negated by that buff as well. This may in fact turn out to be way too strong of a buff to her clear speed, especially if she continues to focus Q.

You also act like losing 0.5% AS per level outweighs the 2.5/5/7.5/10% buff to her W, which even at level 18 the passive growth lost is only 8.5% total, compared to the 10% buff. So that point is also wrong, especially seeing as the change makes it seem they want people to go back to focusing the W second.

(When I say "you", I meant the original person I responded to)

XxxLumberJackxxX3/6/2019, 7:02:50 PM1 votes

You are suppsoed to build crit on her somehow bc of her E though...