Took you 5 months to nerf 
into oblivion but when there's a juggernaut going strong better fcking nerf it right away, seriously I thought Hashinshin was crazy but this proves he's right. Are you gonna 
into jungle now??
Rexxiee6 votes5 days?
Garen has been at 53~54% wr at ALL elos for months already, with a high pick rate too.
Hes broken and need nerfs, simple as that.
AirKingNeo3 votesMonths? With what evidence?
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/garen/top/diamond
Just look at the graphs. Garen isn't even that good.
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesGlobally he has a 54% winrate.
"Isn't even that good" lmfao
AirKingNeo2 votesglobal stats are bad
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesGoogle Translate activate!
These facts don't fit my narrative, so I'm going to ignore them!
There. Translated your sentence out of boards-speak into English.
You can't just ignore facts because you don't like them.
Critmaster Garen4 votesGoogle Translate activate!
There. Translated your sentence out of boards-speak into English.
You can't just ignore facts because you don't like them.
ironic, considering rexxiee is a riven main who demanded to nerf garen after claiming that garen had 15% pick rate and 56% winrate above plat, because he took the play rate at the release day of his new skin, and the highest winrate value on a single day he could find that occured almost a week later.
global stats tend to include all regions, even the non competitive ones where players skill levels are on average lower than the big competitive regions NA, EU, and KR.
this distorts the global winrates of garen in this case by a couple % points.
AirKingNeo1 votesNo. Global stats are bad because it's basically Bronze, Silver, and Gold stats as anything higher is too little of a minority. Stats from low ladder are worthless when talking about balance, because competitive games balance around high ladder.
Critmaster Garen4 votesGlobally he has a 54% winrate.
"Isn't even that good" lmfao
im sorry. of course we need to look at the global stats and include highly competitive regions like vietnam, and brazil.
his winrate has been varying from 51% to 53% on the major regions during the past couple weeks. not month.
in korea its still 50% in plat+ and actually below 50% in diamond+ right now.
he was doing well for about a month now, but not to the point where he would deserve nerfs.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesGlobal being rank-wise, not region-wise.
AirKingNeo2 votesand that's why global is bad.
Critmaster Garen3 votesGlobal being rank-wise, not region-wise.
thats even worse. youre including the lowest levels of play that shouldnt even be considered for champion balance, then of course his winrate is going to look inflated.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesIf it matters whether or not a champion is only broken in Diamond+, it also matters when that champion is only broken in Gold and below.
Critmaster Garen2 votesIf it matters whether or not a champion is only broken in Diamond+, it also matters when that champion is only broken in Gold and below.
it really doesnt.
individual champion balance is outshadowed by peoples individual mistakes in lower divisions. thats why the attempt to balance the game around lower divisions is entirely futile and can not be achieved while still balancing it for high mmr AND pro play. its difficult enough as it is to balance the game around high mmr solo que and pro play at the same time.
its up to the player to familiarize themselves with the basic mechanics of the game, and get better of it. not up to riot to nerf champions around players inexperience.
you dont shoot a professional athlete in the knee, because some amateur wants to be able to compete in the same race with him.
if the amateur wants to compete, he has to train to get faster and not everyone around him made slower.
Junkο5 votesAt least Zoe takes SOME skill to play unlike Garen.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votes"5 days" lmfao
FFrazien2 votesAnd the quote says they are nerfing him because of low elo LMAO, same as darius nerf last year in january, BUT SHOULD WE MAYBE NERF AA CHAMPS LIKE VAYNE AND CAIT FOR LOW ELO??? NOOOO JUST LEAVE THEM BE
ModWulf Helhammer2 votes...
Both of those champions have 47-48% win rates at low elo.
FFrazien2 votes[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iMI2uIFj,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-10T23:13:26.083+0000)
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Both of those champions have 47-48% win rates at low elo.
Nerfing 
that has 3%, 3 FREAKING % playrate in low elo, what's your response to that? Ahri has 53% win rate and 12% playrate. But no lets nerf every single bruiser in the game, and postpone their items until preasons, lets focus on getting marksmens even stronger