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Varus ideas and discussion

FallenSeruvim·6/22/2016, 2:40:49 PM·2 votes·769 views

Sooooo with the release of the Dark Star Varus, I have fallen in love again :D. However, playing him I can tell hes currently having some identity issues. He feels at home in the mid lane as a great addition to a poke/pick comp. He CAN sorta fill the adc position in lower elo of course, but high elo requires mobility, zero to low mobility carries that can function normally bring some form of massive team fighting aoe.

Varus doesn't tap well in to any keystones, nothing feels "GREAT" on him. I'm pretty sure his Q is currently being treated as multi target and not getting the full deathfire touch ratio? Jhin is the epitome and poster boy for functionality with deathfire touch, along with his high AD ratios because of passive and getting the treatment of his abilities being treated as single target spells, it feels great. Varus poke build takes a while to reach any form of respective AD numbers to get any form of returns from deathfire touch even worth the keystone choice. As well as being a hit and go type of champ, in mid lane getting a few autos here then landing a skill from distant, he doesn't use the Fervor enough to make it an "at home" choice either, as well as the recent change to fervor stacks only 1 per landed skill. Its an even worse spot to be in.

This post is sort of a high light of current issues I see plaguing Varus and would love any input or ideas from other players. Feel free to start discussion on what could be changed or done to bring Varus more in to the spotlight and on par as a decent and strong pick in niche comps etc.

7 Comments

zlumpy6/22/2016, 2:46:14 PM2 votes

Just a higher base move speed would be nice. I always feel like he just woke up from a nap and isn't quite awake at the start of a match.

Hayaishi26/22/2016, 5:58:56 PM2 votes

He needs a better passive and W, his e is pathetic as well. Only his Q and R feel like actual impactful abilities.

If he's supposed to be an ADcarry then his passive is a shitty excuse for an steroid, lacking both reliability and power. And if he's mean to be a mid laner poke based champion then his passive completely misses the mark.

If he is meant to be an ADcarry his W needs to be useful besides procing the stacks. And if he's meant to be a mid laner then his W is completely out of place because the ability is useless if you're abilities are on cooldown (which they are meant to be as a mid laner)

His E problem is that it sucks in both damage and utility. It's only redeeming factor it's the griveous wounds but the slow, damage and cooldown are all pathetic.

If Varus is meant to go bot lane and compete against the likes of Lucian, Jinx Ashe, Twitch then he needs to be shifted towards that role and that role only. And if he's meant to go mid and be a poke AD mage then he needs to be shifted towards that role. At the moment Varus sucks at both and feels incomplete, and he's been a trash champion for far too long that has been relaying on a feast or famine playstyle.

Siyther6/22/2016, 3:08:30 PM1 votes

what are u buikding on him he is pretty strong if u use the right build but u do need either good peel or great positioning to use him in the bot lane.If paired with say janna or thresh u can be kept pretty safe til u can combo kill anyone.(except fizz ban his ass). I actually have been using a build that starts out getting tear on first back then goes into Ghostblade then finish masmune.Get botrk and hurricane as boots and whatever u need last item its god damn strong as soon as u get ghostblade and stays stong into lategame.remember u dont need grevious wounds on varus cause his e shuts that down. i can kill an ultied mundo b4 he can get hardely any healing out of that. PPl that are only playing him mid are missing out on how strong of an adc he can be.Sure he could use a little love but its not like he terrible.i feel fine matched up against almost every adc with varus except for graves and lucian.

FurretHasAGlock6/22/2016, 4:24:56 PM1 votes

Just build varus AP with runaans. at 40 min, you can auto 3 times, ult, q, auto 3 more while snare, E. This should melt every champ, except tanks. Even then, does a ton. EDIT! If i did math, and it does 2% more per stack for every 100 ap, with 5% base, and 4 rab with max mejais and seraphs, you will have around 1050 AP. 1000/100=10x2=20%+5% base damage=25 per stack x3 for 3 stacks =75%, x3 because of combo, so you are dealin 225% of the enemy's maximum health as magic damage. have fun.

Nick Da Chip6/26/2016, 10:21:48 PM1 votes

Try going AP Varus. If you learn how to zone correctly you can do really well.

The key is to build a little tanky with all the new AP Items. The nerf to ROA hurt him a little but he still does great damage.