Jungle problems from a toplaner perspective

Rapterminator 02·1/7/2020, 7:44:38 PM·1 votes·1,639 views

I fucking hate when the enemy jungle ganks me a ton. They don’t seem to suffer an XP deficiency and just snowball my enemy laner to victory.

I fucking hate when my jungle ganks because it’s always when I’m under tower with a ton of potential CS and a juicy cannon minion to last hit and they seem to only do this when I’m playing Nasus. That’s just a personal thing though and doesn’t matter.

I play top and I’m bronze. I think I have really good ideas for balance, so here is a list of suggestions to fix the jungle problem.

1: make lanes less snowbally. It’s pretty obvious that turret plating has made everything super snowbally, so a jungler really wants to secure these platings. So they play ganking junglers and try to snowball lanes to victory. It’s annoying and pushes out farming junglers.

2: decrease clear speed. I absolutely bet every jungler would hate this. Junglers like reksai just speed clear their camps until level 3 and go gank as hard as they can, never really suffering from the XP nerfs. Farming junglers like Yi can clear their camps, but don’t have the same power to gank. Increase monster defenses, increase monster health, decrease monster damage, increase gold and XP bounty for all monsters to make worth their time, and increase the jungle sustain from jungle items. Note that 1:30 red and blue buff would be completely unchanged. Master yi farms his jungle while Jarvin ganks his ass off. Jarvin gets his laners an XP and gold lead, but master yi has a big XP and gold lead on Jarvin. It makes ganking more risky and puts more pressure on junglers to be smart about when they gank and when they clear.

Yeah I’m done

21 Comments

The thigh guy1/7/2020, 7:46:33 PM6 votes

You are litteraly always 3-4 levels up on a jungler at all times past minute 10 and you want jungle gutted even more?

Top laners will never be happy until they are the only role that matters.

xKELSOx1/7/2020, 8:29:53 PM4 votes

"i play top and I'm bronze" let me stop you there, how can you have a good idea for balancing when you barely understand the game yourself?

Eedat1/7/2020, 11:37:16 PM4 votes

Jungle is gutted while mid and top are buffed to being hands down the strongest roles and somehow top is still weak and jungle needs more nerfs? Blows my mind

xKELSOx1/7/2020, 8:28:30 PM3 votes

Hey jungler main here and top lane as 2nd role since season 2... place a ward and stop pushing up to make it a free kill.

NF Remilia1/7/2020, 7:48:57 PM3 votes

Or you can learn how to manage your wave correctly? Just a silly idea ^.^! Dont mind me , in s8 i hit diamond 2 as toplaner , what im gonna know : [ ok bye!!!

Rewt1/7/2020, 8:08:23 PM1 votes

People always say "Plates made the game more snowbally"

These people don't remember 5 man push meta. Before tower plates, the meta was for 5 people to show up in a lane and push towers. The Laning phase ended at like 7min. And from there it was just 5 man split pushing and whichever team had the slower tower clear had to recall to defend.

Plates slow this down and make early 5 man tower pushing fairly ineffective.

Beerstein1/8/2020, 1:06:28 PM1 votes

Let me break this down. You say you understand the game. You say you want jungle nerfed. You make a suggestion that'd buff the jungle.

  1. Make monsters tougher, ok.
  2. Decrease monster damage, why? Proper clearing will keep most junglers healthy with the heal item.
  3. Increase sustain on jg items... Wait what? Read above. I already clear with 100% hp on Amumu, now you want decrease jg damage and increase item sustain? Overheal? Idk man. All your doing now is increasing the jungle pool.
  4. Increase JG exp. Ok but umm... That's gonna make junglers stronger, not weaker. You increase defense but also increase exp you maybe level out xp/m and you want them healthier for more ganks. Any junglers that clear fast will be even stronger, especially the longer the game goes.

End result? You just put ADCs in the jungle. Yeah, enjoy getting ganked by Miss Fortune. Lol. Still gonna smash your tier with the rift herald too.

I'd go from quitting the jungle to getting autofilled out of it with your buffs.