Aside from all the QQs and sh!ttalks about elos, let's talk about the upcoming Ashe changes.

EverTokki·Apr 27, 2015·3 votes·1,027 views

Since it is upcoming, and it is coming real fast. (Early this week, they said) What do you guys think Riot did (or has done) to make her viable? Let's see some creative ideas and see how much we were close to the rework of her kit once it's revealed.

I personally really wanted her ulti to scale on AD(liek since I've started LoL), even if it was +0.1AD at the most. Give her some love on her ulti.. I mean, even if it's more of an initiating skill than a damage dealing one, it's no fun when your ulti does nothing.

16 Comments

TheHobbitsApr 27, 20152 votes

Making her arrow volley indicate each arrow path like kha"zix Tri- shot instead of just a cone.

Other than that, I think bringing her up to 2015 status will be welcome.

CrettApr 27, 20152 votes

I bet they'll do some pseudo Twitch thing where her ultimate does more damage the more times she autos you before using it. That sounds like a similar gameplay pattern to Jinx now that I think of it

AyRe CoNteMpTApr 27, 20151 votes

lets talk about the ashe rework once we get it. all right? to be entirely honest, i love ashe the way she is.

EverTokkiApr 27, 20151 votes

I do love her the way she is, too. I just hope for the best for her and hope that her rework won't make her a different person but will pull her stats up a little bit.

AriafluxApr 27, 20151 votes

I predict...

Passive: No idea what it could be since it's likely totally different from original. Possibly utility based and not additional damage like her current passive Q: No longer a toggle, either something like Sejuani's Permafrost or new interactions will her other skills W: Unchanged E: Slight buff, removed passive R: Unchanged

P.S. Riot confirmed no skillshot added

EverTokkiApr 27, 20151 votes

If they *did add *a skillshot, I'd uninstall the game.

Sir YamazukiApr 27, 20151 votes

Disappointing on her being changed, it's not really necessary since no matter what champions are picked Ashe seems to perform well, she is also one of the 2 adcs I actually will play if I'm forced into playing adc.

ModWulf HelhammerApr 27, 20151 votes

They said the only things that will really be changing are her Passive and her Q, as they don't have very interactive gameplay

Sir YamazukiApr 27, 20151 votes

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They said the only things that will really be changing are her Passive and her Q, as they don't have very interactive gameplay

I will view any change to be terrible. Changing a champion based on the opinion of the community is rather silly, statistically she is not weak like most of the people on boards keep saying. There is absolutely no reason to change her, it's fine to have unpopular champions, there are obviously people who enjoy playing her as she is, and it's not possible to please everyone anyways.

Then there's the fact that the changes they make to champions either makes them very weak or they end up the next fotm.

HailFire DragonApr 27, 20151 votes

its not based on community opinions.....its based on their opinions. riot think her passive should be different because its strange that a passive would promote a adc to not attack or cs anything in favor of getting a crit when adc should be constantly attacking stuff. her passive also gets more useless as the match goes on since its quite easy to get over 50% crit on ashe late game.

Sir YamazukiApr 27, 20151 votes

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its not based on community opinions.....its based on their opinions. riot think her passive should be different because its strange that a passive would promote a adc to not attack or cs anything in favor of getting a crit when adc should be constantly attacking stuff. her passive also gets more useless as the match goes on since its quite easy to get over 50% crit on ashe late game.

Passive change is something the community wants, it's very possible to use her passive while farming. People want to play her as if she's Jinx or Sivir and auto win the game from level 1. As Ashe, you can get your passive to max stacks just as you hit 6 and either kill your opponents or force them out of lane while forcing them to use summoners. Positioning with her ends up being even more important than some of the others, but seeing as most people here are bronze/silver, where her win rate happens to be under 50%, it's no surprise they find her weak and in need of changes.

HailFire DragonApr 27, 20151 votes

i know early game the passive is cool because the chance to crit for a butt load of damage is good but the passive becomes useless afterward when every other attack is a crit regardless of the passive.

its like lissandra and the passive changes riot said they were gonna test for her too. her passive potentially is very good in early for staying in lane and for not going oom by zoning the enemy however as soon as roa gets build and the game transitions to the mid game its quickly looses its relevance if you need to use a spell you will more than likely already have the mana for it.

if ashe gets a passive that remains relevant and as important as it is in the early game as it is in the late game i think it might just be better so im curious what riot is thinking of doing.

EverTokkiApr 27, 20151 votes

She is a pretty neutral marksman. She has all the abilities necessary- kiting, slows, stuns except for the fact that she lacks a bit on mobility. However, since she is so neutral, I do love playing her but don't think there's a reason to pick her over other viable adc's.

Sir YamazukiApr 27, 20151 votes

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She is a pretty neutral marksman. She has all the abilities necessary- kiting, slows, stuns except for the fact that she lacks a bit on mobility. However, since she is so neutral, I do love playing her but don't think there's a reason to pick her over other viable adc's.

She's perfectly viable no matter the meta.

There are plenty enough reasons to pick her over others, the only picks that are actually better than her happen to be the picks that are too strong and winning against everything.

HailFire DragonApr 27, 20151 votes

i think they are possibly gonna make her passive have something to do with slowing people and possibly change exactly how q works