Can we get an AD Chalice upgrade?

WexAndywn·Dec 9, 2015·3 votes·744 views

Seriously, there are so many champions I'd build this on.

14 Comments

ParoeDec 9, 20152 votes

theres but a single mana regen item for ADs; manamune :c

MisterHealYoGirlDec 9, 20154 votes

lolwut item 3508

EcchiOtakuTMDec 9, 20151 votes

The AD that could use the mana regen dont need crit tho.

MisterHealYoGirlDec 9, 20151 votes

Like who? Jayce, Varus, Ezreal, etc. all like Essence Reaver.

EcchiOtakuTMDec 10, 20151 votes

Urgot/Varus/Jayce poke builds dont

Yorick, Talon, and Vi

Somewhat for guaranteed crit champs

Ezreal I could never see using a poke build with that Huge AS steroid

And I would say Kha but I havn't played kha only fought him often.

The Bearded BardDec 9, 20152 votes

Sure, as soon as AP can get an upgrade for item 3140

ParoeDec 9, 20151 votes

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Sure, as soon as AP can get an upgrade for

Question: the AP solution to cleanse? Answer: What is "Mikaels crucible", john.

The Bearded BardDec 9, 20155 votes

Has literally no AP on the item, can't be used to stop suppressions, silences, or blinds, unlike QSS.

Next.

Also, I'm pretty sure the host of Jeopardy's name is Alex.

MisterHealYoGirlDec 9, 20151 votes

AD characters get item 3139 , AP characters get item 3157 . It's a fair trade-off.

The Bearded BardDec 10, 20151 votes

AD characters get better CDR itemization, better sustain itemization (lifesteal is core on damn near every ad champ while spellvamp is rarely built on all but like four AP champs), cheaper items, more and better starting options, better jungle item options (soon to be fixed, but I highly doubt the new AP jungle item isn't going to be nerfed), they've got way more and better active items (aside from Zhonyas, yea it's pretty great), AD also has crit, and an abundance of it at that.

But yeah, AP gets Zhonyas so it's okay for AD to have all of that.

MisterHealYoGirlDec 10, 20151 votes

Hey, I wasn't trying to make a grand, sweeping generalization about AP vs AD itemization. I was just trying to make the point that both AD and AP champions have some kind of utility unique to them.

SquidblimpDec 9, 20151 votes

AD champions don't get mana regen items because they have sustained damage in the form of auto attacks between their spells. AP champions don't have this luxury of strong auto attacks, so they get mana regen to cast more spells.

Anyways, if you need more flat mana, get Muramana, Triforce, Iceborn Gauntlet if you have high base AD, etc...

Oh, and if you're building crit, Essence Reaver restores mana on crits...

CrazedPorcupineDec 9, 20151 votes

I once concepted something that met the bill Goblet of Blood Chalice + Serrated Dirk + 900 = 3000 gold

25 MR 50 AD 20 AD 100% Base Mana regen: Unique Passive - Mana font: Regnerate 1% of your missing mana every 5 seconds. Unique Passive - +10 Armor pen Unique active - Blood offering - Target a minion below 25% hp and consume it to grant a charge of blood, This item can hold up to 5 charges. Your next attack on an enemy champion will consume all charges and deal 25-75(Based on level)* (Number of charges) bonus physical damage.