So what I mean by this is I want champions such as gangplank, lee sin, wukong, pantheon, reksai to become regarded as supports that can be played without your adc quitting on you for "trolling". It's just a dream I had.
Ok sure but why7 votespanth i understand, but people without cc OR heals on basic abilities are just no
1wolfpack2 votesI usually dont have a hard time playing off-meta supports as much this season as I have before. I just assure my team-mates that it works, and to trust me. keep a positive attitude about it. then I back it up with stellar game play. usually works out well.
anyways, good luck bro.
I Ward A Lot1 votesI usually dont have a hard time playing off-meta supports as much this season as I have before. I just assure my team-mates that it works, and to trust me. keep a positive attitude about it. then I back it up with stellar game play. usually works out well.
anyways, good luck bro.
A man can dream
Fondling Gems2 votesHey man, If I can AP Vayne support you can do anything!
(Also before people complain about it I asked my team for permission first so it wasn't trolling. It also worked.)
The Last Ballad1 votesHow...
CookyPrince2 votesvayne does damage regardless of how you build her, all that changes is the amount
Unstoppable Monk2 votesTechnically speaking, she does more damage per hit with 
since 
is 8.
Fondling Gems1 votesBasically this was right after the frost queens claim rework when it was silly op. As a joke I told my friends I could easily build it on any support and to prove it I built it on Vayne, a champ with no AP scalings and arguably my worst champion. A few good condemns, W base damage, first 3 hits do more damage early than AD due to spelltheif's passive, and I got both my adc and I reasonably fed.
The Last Ballad1 votesDon't tell my sister then. She has yet to find a champ she cannot support with, and she does not need any more ideas.(SERIOUSLY THOUGH, SHE HAS SUPPORTED WITH GAREN AND KATARINA! AND NOT EVEN "SUPPORT"ING!)
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesThe inherent problem with an AD support is that all champions have one form of damage that scales off of AD: their basic attacks. This leads to a situation where if they had some form of utility scaling off of AD, what's to stop them from going solo and just using AA to take down the opponent? For AP, it's a bit easier, as you have to build it to have it, and, while some AA scales on AP (at least on structures), it's tuned so that they don't deal that much with it.
I'm not saying that Riot couldn't ever make an AD support as a new champion, it's just that these are the current problems with one that Riot doesn't have a solution for.
it be lìke that2 votessounds like you want to play top lane or jungle to me, but ok.
gangplank offers you literally nothing and will steal half your farm with barrels, and if he didnt, you would have a potato gp late game. Lee sin, i mean i guess? he has a baby shield for you and can kick people into towers. Still though, little protection compared to all utility champs. Pantheon can barely keep himself alive when he doesnt completely counter the other champion so i mean.. Rek'sai? she can knock up for you, thats about it. which isnt the hardest thing to avoid if you are staring at her while she is underground.
IPromiseTomorrow1 votesBeware of the 
support one-tricks.
Draaaaaavéééééén1 voteslol i mean like lee,and rek are better supports than illaoi and its orange eater
Unstoppable Monk1 votesdo not diss the swag tentacle lady
GP though is terrible for support. carries with low utility aren't very good.
God Raijin1 votes
God King Aatrox1 votesi played a lot of 
support, some 
support, and now all i play is 
support since his rework. I barely got flamed when i picked j4 or panth, because in lane all i did was abuse my q for poke and then when they were at 50% health id all in pinging on them when i did so for my adc to follow up and then melt them.
its a niche pick but those 2 are actually really good against the sona and nami's who build legit 0 armor items and rush ap based support items.
Blue Moon Wolf1 votesWukong 
would make for a good support. In nearly the same sense as 
is a support (support till she reaches a certain level, then she becomes the carry), but between his armor breaking Q, his passive increasing his armor and mr higher in a duo lane compared to a solo one, his clone doing... clone things... and his ult, he would make for a half decent support.
that said, the problem is that a lot of those champs don't have much in the cc department or the ally buff area either. GP specifically needs to kill minions with his Q for his Ult, so he would have to take 
, and even then there isn't much for him to do aside from poke and heal himself from tanking damage.
I would love for a meta where we could have these guys as support, but that would require some major changes to the role in itself.
Requiemsfire1 votesQuestion how do you make those champions scale despite losing lane without making them overpowered?