smite lee sin mid, max w first?

Koldheartedjsp·Jul 5, 2015·1 votes·1,146 views

thoughts on this?

Kay so, Lee sin mid #1 to me. This is ALL I PLAY IF GIVEN THE CHANCE. I usually go Q>W>E or Q>E>W if i lvl 2 under tower. I get 2 to lvl 2 or 3 (depending on how fast i get my tiamat), and then max Q.

Well recently I've been thinking "what if i max W first, then smite is just giant heal every 40 seconds?"

Alot of lees damage comes from ratios, and even with lower level skills it seems like he can still put out decent damage, at least enough vs squishies.

Been bringing smite to lane for awhile, but never really considered maxing W first for some reason.

26 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20152 votes

W is just a shield. More AP means stronger shield, thats it.
Again, Trailblazer does not heal off minions.

Peel Your ADCJul 5, 20151 votes

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W is just a shield. More AP means stronger shield, thats it.

Again, Trailblazer does not heal off minions.

Does lee's shield give spell vamp? Cause if it does, then it functions like an aoe spellvamp on a 50 second cooldown

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20152 votes

yes a TON of spellvamp.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

you are fucking retarded never comment about lee sin again

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20152 votes

Then what? The only AP scaling I see here is just stronger shield, that's it.

And I don't get what "tons of Spell Vamp" you're talking about. It's only scaling is:

LIFE STEAL & SPELL VAMP: 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25%

I don't see how building AP with no other abilities with AP scaling helps with "more heals".

X8ViEhkPS0Jul 5, 20151 votes

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Then what? The only AP scaling I see here is just stronger shield, that's it.

And I don't get what "tons of Spell Vamp" you're talking about. It's only scaling is:

LIFE STEAL & SPELL VAMP: 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25%

I don't see how building AP with no other abilities with AP scaling helps with "more heals".

What the hell are you talking about? Who said about getting AP? The idea was maxing W to get large amounts of smite sustain, and using his AD ratios for damage.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT AP SCALING WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP?

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20152 votes

Because for someone going Smite Lee mid from nowhere, I assume you're just going another Runeglaive mid laner? Duh?

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

lol...

stay bronze kid

only someone in bronze would actually think that...

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20152 votes

Says a guy who tries to troll with Mid Lee that maxes W first.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

AND WINS WITH IT

sorry you cant win with weird, gimped, picks

stay bronze ;)

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20151 votes

Yea sure, cz I bet it's meta since you won it 1/100000000 games.

#BadgesCanLie

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

bronze item 3070 item 3073

so tasty

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20151 votes

When someone's argument has been beaten, and then uses a desperate attempt by using a person's elo thinking it's a free "argument-win".

I'll stop right here, looks like your thread isn't worth commenting further now.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

you beat my argument? Lol you kept saying "ap scaling"

NOBODY WAS EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE BRONZE.

It's okay that you suck massive dick, just make sure you understand what you are talking about before actually commenting

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20151 votes

Says a guy who picks a Smite Lee mid of all times, especially during in the mid Ez/Diana Runeglaive. Isn't this what most people were highly assuming? You otw to building Runeglaive Lee? If not, I would be having like at least 5 downvotes in my first comment for reading your thread wrong.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

I've been playing lee sin smite mid since cinderhulk came out

my bad that i ask this question the same time scrubs are testing out ezreal.

I was under the assumption most people know his W gives spellvamp and they'd understand that's what I'm eluding to.

BeatzBoyFTWJul 5, 20151 votes

Yeah, it's pretty misleading people would think you're building Runeglaive during the Ez/Diana mid smite era. Just bad timing, that's all :p

MatezoideJul 5, 20151 votes

It seems like a pretty decent option if you are just farming, but it certanly feels like that would hurt Lee's early game power.

It might be a worth a try, and likely a good choice for certain situations/match ups, but the usual Q max first is likely better most of the time.

MLDzXnRRRJul 5, 20151 votes

There is no reason to play Lee mid, if you don't gank the other lanes; maxing W won't make you better ganker.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

i appreciate the challenge

WillHealForHonorJul 5, 20151 votes

Just dont play lee mid for other peoples sake?

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

X8ViEhkPS0Jul 5, 20151 votes

Man I remember way back when Froggen was playing the mid lane Lee Sin.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

i remember people telling me "stop being a wannabe froggen"

good times

5D ParagonJul 5, 20151 votes

Well, if I recall correctly. a strong version of Lee Sin is full tank. He can tank so much damage while putting out a decent amount. What if this version of Lee Sin was built specifically for his shield and peeling carries? You can build tank AP, and still do a decent amount of damage.

Not sure, just throwing ideas since I like testing new things.