Is there any reason why over the years of URF being out Garen his e glitch/bug hasn't been fixed. He simply cancels and reapplies and it just multiplies the damage almost killing instantaneously. All he needs in swifties, ghostblade, some crit and ghost and he just spams e and runs around like a madman. Some may say "Malzahar will easily stop him." And to that I respond with "QSS is an item!". Its just sad to see games getting demolished because Garen was in it.
Critmaster Garen2 votes[{quoted}](name=A Sutpid Idot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hAKK98eE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-24T20:13:23.445+0000)
Is there any reason why over the years of URF being out Garen his e glitch/bug hasn't been fixed.
its not a bug. its a side effect of how the cooldown refund on his spin works.
the ability wasnt designed with 80% cdr in mind. its cooldown is simply so short, that its shorter than the duration of the spin. when cast and immediately cancelled, the remaining duration gets refunded and the cooldown goes into the negative. when the spin is activated in that moment, its cast twice.
the reason why it wasnt changed is, because everything is broken in urf. there are champions that are just as crazy as urf garen.
Boltonator1 votesThey remove Garen from URF then people will just find another champion who is “too broken to be in URF and want them removed, too.
A Sutpid Idot1 votesThey remove Garen from URF then people will just find another champion who is “too broken to be in URF and want them removed, too.
I don't think he deserves to be removed. I just think his e is a little stupid how CANCELLING it increases the damage
Boltonator1 votes[{quoted}](name=A Sutpid Idot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hAKK98eE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-24T20:50:45.337+0000)
I don't think he deserves to be removed. I just think his e is a little stupid how CANCELLING it increases the damage
I agree with you but, in the end, URF isn’t a serious game mode at the end of the day. Things are going to be broken, some more than others.
Baron Von Garen1 votesHis E isn't bugged/glitched
It's how the ability works.
Should they have put a bigger damage reduction on him like zed/sona? Yea probably
Does he need to be removed? Nah not really
A Sutpid Idot1 votes[{quoted}](name=Baron Von Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hAKK98eE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-24T20:19:06.776+0000)
His E isn't bugged/glitched
It's how the ability works.
Should they have put a bigger damage reduction on him like zed/sona? Yea probably
Does he need to be removed? Nah not really
How is cancelling an ability and increasing the damage how something is supposed to work. If I am starving and eating a hamburger I just stop eating it 1/4 of the way through will I be full?
Baron Von Garen1 votesAgain, there is no damage increase.
Look at Garen lvl 1:
His E spins 5 times over 3 seconds Once you click E, there is an instance of damage, it then procs another instance of damage before you cancel it, and another instance when you end it.
However, in urf, the cancel cooldown is reduced by 80%, so you can cancel it almost immediately. The ability itself refunds his E's cooldown based on the remaining duration (3 seconds).
This means you can keep spamming the ability over and over again.
So lets say you can activate his E, deactivate it, and activate it again in the span of 1 second:
Activation --> +1 spin Damage inbetween activation and end --> +1 spin End spin -->+1 spin Activation -->+1 spin
You just hit someone with 4 spins in 1 second
Garen's E level 1 is supposed to do 5 spins in 3 seconds (1.6 spins per second)
There's your double damage "bug"
Edit: But hey, I almost have 1mil on the guy, what do I know? ;)
A Sutpid Idot1 votes[{quoted}](name=Baron Von Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hAKK98eE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-25T01:48:47.339+0000)
Again, there is no damage increase.
Look at Garen lvl 1:
His E spins 5 times over 3 seconds Once you click E, there is an instance of damage, it then procs another instance of damage before you cancel it, and another instance when you end it.
However, in urf, the cancel cooldown is reduced by 80%, so you can cancel it almost immediately. The ability itself refunds his E's cooldown based on the remaining duration (3 seconds).
This means you can keep spamming the ability over and over again.
So lets say you can activate his E, deactivate it, and activate it again in the span of 1 second:
Activation --> +1 spin Damage inbetween activation and end --> +1 spin End spin -->+1 spin Activation -->+1 spin
You just hit someone with 4 spins in 1 second
Garen's E level 1 is supposed to do 5 spins in 3 seconds (1.6 spins per second)
There's your double damage "bug"
Edit: But hey, I almost have 1mil on the guy, what do I know? ;)
Ah my bad. Just thought Riot had screwed something up with the mechanics. Understood now. Thanks!
Rester1 votes-5% Damage nerf on Garen, by the way. [sg-miss-fortune]
Bardmageddon1 votesTrue, URF Garen is AIDS, but he is extremely weak against champs with hard cc (this prevents him from canceling his e)
These are some examples which I have seen annihilate Garen 
A Sutpid Idot1 votesTrue, URF Garen is AIDS, but he is extremely weak against champs with hard cc (this prevents him from canceling his e)
These are some examples which I have seen annihilate Garen
I guess this is true. I don't own any of these guys on my smurf however so thats my bad.