What Would You Do If Riot Reworked Your Champion?

Im A Jayce God··17 votes·2,913 views

Would you quit the game, try out the new reworked version of your champion, or main a new champion?

Me personally, I would probably quit if they reworked Jayce. I have been maining him for a year now, back when he considered a 'Dumpster Champion', and I have 900 games on him.

173 Comments

Åeolus5 votes

Depends. Generally in reworks even if abilities do change a champion's kit ends up being similar or at least the play style does.

Im A Jayce God5 votes

Ryze Shen Yorick Talon

These champs changed quite a bit. I hear Urgot's upcoming rework is gonna be very different as well. Sure yorick still summons Ghouls, but its not the same like they were.

Åeolus8 votes

All their playstyles are similar though.

JuhnChan2 votes

Malzahar though xd

Anidan2 votes

Poppy though

I love the new Poppy, but she does not play too similarly to Ye Olde Poppy other than running headlong into a team because she does not care.

Funkin Dunkin1 votes

I miss that Poppy

DKM Bismarck3 votes

Yorick's playstyle was flipped 180 degrees Shen - agreed Ryze - agreed Talon - his playstyle changed a lot as well, he lost lots of lane juke potential with losing his blink, he became a lot more pokey and his level 2 is no longer the worst thing in the game. It's actually one of the strongest early games now but unlike before he doesn't scale overly well. A good old Talon scaled very well. A good new Talon scales okay. His playstyle changed, but for the better. He is a lot healthier than before.

l Helios l1 votes

Can you explain? Yorick before was the "win lane, lose game" split pusher champion, no? He's still pretty much a split pusher now, he just has a few positive aspects for teamfighting now.

DKM Bismarck1 votes

He can teamfight, his poke isn't free anymore, he doesn't have the same sustain he used to have, he is actually a stronger splitpusher now, he has pseudo cc whereas before he had one small slow, on top of keeping a slow in his kit.

l Helios l1 votes

Urgot's had better be different. Even Urgot didn't know what he was suppose to be.

Funkin Dunkin1 votes

Urgot? I thought that was just a visual change. They better not rework him at all he's my #6 all time :|

Im A Jayce God1 votes

The leak mentioned the rework changes to him, I dont remember all of them but I do know his ult brings the enemy to him like a blitz pull, and urgots chest is a bunch a teeth chewing on the enemy.

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

I'd play the reworked champs. I like and play champions for their personality/lore moreso than their kit, and Riot's pretty decent at keeping the core of their identity intact.

Im A Jayce God3 votes

Wouldnt you feel like you wasted so much time on learning that one champion tho. Thats like working out for a year, then losing all gains within a week for some reason. Would you still be motivated to workout?

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

I'm pretty well rounded and play a wide variety of champs, so I don't get that feeling.

The closest champ that I can equate is Azir, but I've accepted that he needs a rework for a long time now.

Divewing1 votes

Basically, but I picked him up for the AP-Hyper-Carry, not so much the battle mage-shuffling, so if he's reworked in favour of the former I doubt i'll be complaining.

Honestly his Q just needs to be a re-positioning tool, no a damage spell

Ralanr1 votes

But isn't his E already a repositioning tool?

AbiwonKenabi2 votes

I think he means for his soldiers, not himself. Right now Q does a lot of damage just to move soldiers into you.

Mecha MaIphite4 votes

Rejoice. Maybe I'll have something to do other than press one button every fight.

Borbland4 votes

Maining for a year ? I've been maining Zyra mid ever since she was released back in 2012 and considered trash on anything but support.

Also Jayce is regularly played since beggining of season 6, it was earlier when Jayce was really underplayed

vOmvbrawfU3 votes

Jayce was ever considered a dumpster champion?

UseLubePlease3 votes

Yes, but that was after the nerf when he was released and alot of people stopped playing him, Dyrus was one of few who knew how to play him and realized how to play him still so he kept on it and people got on the Jayce Train more after realizing he's not bad, you just need to learn how to play him.

The Whamboozler3 votes

I was a Skarner main back in the day. They DID rework my champion. Three times. EVERY TIME was a horrible garbage fire that only made him worse. They butchered his lore... ruined his gameplay... briefly made him OP then nerfed him into the ground over it... and at the end of the day he's no more popular or good than he ever was.

Don't even get me started on Fiora or Cassiopeia either.

Point is... they HAVE reworked some of my favorite champions into piles of feces with my old, beloved champ's face drawn on it and then told me "there you go! We made them better! You're welcome!".

If you younger players have never had a champ you love violated by Riot, I envy you.

KoggyStyle1 votes

agreed on fifi.

6Sfool1 votes

Oh god, I remember old Fiora. That monstrosity was an actual tumor. I've seen them go from 50 health and getting focused to getting a quadra, just because of that ult.

Then again, new Fiora is not much better.

The Whamboozler2 votes

Her old ult wasn't the best, true. But that's no excuse to ruin her art, her in-game character model and butcher her kit like they did.

khorney2 votes

they reworked skarner which was a nerf and a half so i cannot play him due to how weak he is compared to how strong he was so yep thats that

Doodlzzz2 votes

When they reworked Kat i was so sad because now it takes skill to play her :(

goodbye to all that lp i could have netted in my s5 elo lol

Nielarken2 votes

They already did Soraka I cried and kept playing.

UseLubePlease1 votes

Soraka main too here... Reworks upon reworks upon nerfs.. I just learned to adapt my playstyle over again, rework, then 2 nerfs? Build spellvamp raka, spellvamp removed? Build Movement Speed, Pure AP Raka for 700+ heals. Still, none were as fun as Spellvamp Raka, especially with the center circle 200% dmg which required alot of skill to hit (predicting movement, locking them in directions they can move, then timing when to drop it l like its hot and hope they don't learn the counter of turning around and walking away.)

Nielarken2 votes

You know what I miss? perma slow mr shred q spam with item 3116

UseLubePlease1 votes

Any slowing items like item 3116 will add the slow percentage to any slow abilities you already have up to 85% max. I'm not sure if this was intentional by riot by I would put my money it was by the fact there's a cap on how high the slow addition can get.

Get one on Soraka and you will have heavier slows on Q, and slow on E's to make it easier to proc your rooting, plus 75 ap to make you Q heal 7.5 hp more for seven seconds and some health that will help in slight pinches. Its much more kit friendly, but if your going for Heal Raka, aitem 3089 would be a smart pick. 120ap means 60 HP more on each W and the 35ap more from cap alone and item 2301 making it so you have 17 more hp just from items. But me? I usually go item 2301 then item 3117 / item 3009 / item 3158 , then a item 3089 and poof you are doing 500 HP heals from your windseakers blessing already. if you go a item 3165 it will help from this Lifesteal/Lethality meta bs you see for teamfights, and give some CDR you now have 45% in total. And then build anything from there, you're nowdoing 713 hp heals alone (unless they have stuff that makes them take higher heals in which case tanks will be easier to heal their massive fucking HP bars) and you can end on any of these item 3116 item 3107 item 3504 item 3174 item 3109 item 3151 item 3048 item 3800 item 3109 item 3001 item 3157 item 3512 item 3050 as hypocritical as this sounds to tell you to get Watchers, I get item 2302 for the early game which doesn't last long and sense people know to focus the raka, and any hp you lose is a massive loss of HP your team needs for a heal.

Ryvakua2 votes

Can I support with it?

iTaLenTZ2 votes

I lost my favourite picks Malzahar mid and Garen Taric top.

Amumu is totally out of meta Malphite armor is useless with so much true damage and stacked armor penetration in the game

I still played a bunch of other champs but after losing my best competitive mains that got me to D2 during season 5 I lost interest.

I uninstalled the game months ago after not playing much during the abysmal season 6 and season 7 not being any better. I still check the boards from time to time.

AbiwonKenabi3 votes

I think Amumu is actually in an ok spot right now, and there are some interesting changes on the PBE for him. Same with Malz mid, he still does fine there. You got me with Taric though, not suited to a solo lane at all anymore.

Mig892 votes

Yeah I've seen amumu in challenger games recently

Malicious Metal2 votes

I've been maining Morde since late season 2, I will never quit him. I'd actually love him finally getting that VGU though, the guy needs it.

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Ahri I would Quit tbh

The only thing that would keep me in the game would maybe be Jinx and Cassiopeia But I feel like Ahri is the only real reason I play. If overwatch had a Kumiho/Kitsune I would have a hard time playing League

JuhnChan2 votes

Ahri is never going to get reworked.

She's basically on Rito tenure along with LeeSin , Orianna , Zed and Vayne

Oh, and Renekton but no one cares about Renekton except top laners.

Anidan7 votes

In fairness, Ori earned her tenure. I don't think I've seen anyone actually call her kit bullshit without immediately being descended upon, for example.

She gets results with a pretty fair kit.

Ralanr2 votes

Imo she has a bit too much damage on her utility abilities (like her ult. Jesus Christ her ult) but that's a personal issue I have with her.

SweedishGunner2 votes

Ori is even more of a generalist than Ahri (she's way less selfish and offers more to the team), but she doesn't get all the hate because her play rate isn't through the roof (yet).

l Helios l1 votes

Oh, and Renekton but no one cares about Renekton except top laners.

? You mean the guy who basically was ignored for two seasons after we got rid of the season 3 renekton bullshit? I'd hardly say he's tenure.

If anyone is top lane tenure, it's Rumble

JuhnChan1 votes

Rumble got his E heavily altered recently.

Season 3 was a long, long time ago.

Riot doesn't touch Renekton much because they consider him the standard to which they should compare all other top laners.

l Helios l1 votes

Rumble got his E heavily altered recently.

They made it a charge system and adjusted the heat buildup accordingly. By and large, a net positive for rumble. Further, Renekton had adjustments to his damage and rage buildup in mid-season 5 I think.

Season 3 was a long, long time ago.

The point was that, until recently, Renekton hasn't been LCS worthy for the most part. Rumble, on the other hand, has been consistent with the exception of that period where it was all Ekko/Shen/Gnar.

Riot doesn't touch Renekton much because they consider him the standard to which they should compare all other top laners.

The "Renekton bar" was complete bullshit and was a poor way to balance top lane. Almost anyone, including Rioters, will tell you it was stupid. If you didn't play Mundo or Shyvana (and maybe like 1 other champion I'm forgetting about) into Renekton, you were throwing the game. To say Renekton is still the bar is narrowminded imo; the current situation is hardly comparable to that level of bullshit. If anyone has been the bar for top lane for the past season, it was probably Ekko. Ekko singlehandedly forced several picks out of the meta when Tankko erupted in pro play. Renekton did the same thing, but that was a long time ago, and I severely doubt he is capable of doing that now.

JuhnChan1 votes

Semantics. Point is, Ahri is never going to get reworked.

l Helios l1 votes

? But that wasn't the point we were discussing.

JuhnChan1 votes

maybe not you. we digressed. and way to downvote to disagree. very mature, hotshot.

l Helios l1 votes

Ahri wasn't our discussion. Our discussion was Renekton. You avoid providing any evidence to support your claim beyond Rumble E changes, then you drop the discussion and make a random claim about Ahri.

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