Magic Penetration items are a little bit... uh...

Cunky··2 votes·549 views

Lacking. They're a little bit lacking.

There are only 6 Magic Penetration items in the game right now: item 3020 item 3136 item 3135 item 3001 item 3151 item 3379 One of them is only available when you have a certain champion on your team. One of them is an item you build into another item. One of them is for tanks (or drunk Ryzes and Cassiopeias). One of them is just boots. One of them just gives you more raw magic damage. And one of them is an actually good item that a lot of AP people build. (you should be able to tell which items there are)

6 AP items, and two of them are the same goddamn item!

We need more magic penetration items. I realize that this might start the League of Legends equivalent of the Red Scare again, but with mages so be it. I'm sick of this meta where if you get an Ardent Censer and have Twitch, Tristana, or any hypercarry really, you win. Look at Lethality. Nerfed into the ground, but they're still good items that a lot of off meta characters can build and have them do damage (I build full lethality Taric top one time. E auto-auto, dead). But it feels like all mages get the same core build: item 3165 item 3020 item 3157 item 3089 item 3135, and then there's one more slot, which would probably be taken up by something like a item 3285, item 3116, or item 3151.

And then you're full build. Where's the individuality with the builds? Look at Kayle's core build: item 3115 item 3124 item 3085 item 3158 and then two more items that would probably be some AP/CDR. You wouldn't see those items on any other mage (well, maybe Orianna if Tilterella goes insane with another on hit build for her). Hell, I even have a Mundo build where I build exactly this: item 3151 item 3020 item 3020 item 3020 item 3020 item 3135 It's not good, and it's not viable, but it's fun as hell! Half health anybody with a cleaver because they do more than true damage! You wouldn't see me building that Morellonomicon nonsense on Mundo. We need to give more AP items Magic Penetration.

A few ideas I cooked up in my lab and tied together with some loose showstring: item 3285 Same movement speed and passive, except the bouncy bounce thingy scales off Magic Penetration too (but the scaling is lowered for AP and Magic Penetration) However, the price is lowered to 2900 gold, it gives 70 AP, and gives 15 flat Magic Penetration. Also, the build path would be item 3113 item 1026

A NEW ITEM Build path would be item 3802 and item 3136 It would be like Morellonomicon with some tuned numbers to the mana giving part of it. Stats would be something like 80 AP 15 flat Magic Penetration +350 Mana +250 HP 3200 Gold It would have the same passive as regular item 3802, where you get insane mana regen for a short period of time after leveling up.

Anyways, these are just a few ideas, tell me your opinion in the comments! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

7 Comments

MrHaZeYo3 votes

The reason we only have 2 flat Mage Pen items is that's all you need. Base MR scaling stops at 39 (?) on most champions so Liandyrs and Sorc Pen boots plus Mage Pen mastery's allow you to have true damage. Our %Pen item (Void) is in theory better, except AD have two options. If you notice the meta lately for mid laners is Morellos into either Liandyrs or Banshees because one allows you to burst someone really hard and the other allows you to survive the early burst while still having the same rough AP value.

Also Abyssal isn't a Mage Pen item.

Ryze and Cassio can build Abyssal, it isn't uncommon or a "drunk act".

Cunky1 votes

I realize that Abyssal isn't a Magic Pen item, its just that, if you click on the "Magic Penetration" tab in item sets, Abyssal pops up. Sooooooooo

MrHaZeYo1 votes

That's prolly just out dated, as Abyssal used to be a pen item.

Halodjin Tyr1 votes

Too long, didn't read get to the point sooner.

Takazaki1 votes

Tldr: mage itemixation is shit, here is how i think we can fix it.

AdeBug1 votes

I agree mpen is shit, I once had like 4 mpen items and still as fiddle I couldnt kill a prerework sej with just 1 mr item... I unloaded my entire kit and she just slowly ran away escaping with a sliver of hp. More than once.

jwebb01131 votes

i played swain full ap my last game...

my build was item 3386 item 3027 item 3165 item 3151 item 3116 item 3020 went flat magic pen reds, armor seals, ap quints , mr blues 18-0-12 masteries taking piercing thoughts ( +7% magic pen) and DFT ...

i did 88k+ in damage in that game with 14 kills and 14asst

out damage everyone in the game. the closest person to my damage output was enemy tristana at 57k .

i think my magic pen was fine

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