Garen

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its a lie. with these items, garen deals zero damage and its a horrible build.

as you have listed 4 items, a good build would be black cleaver, youmus ghostblade, sunfire, thornmail

then yes, you oneshot anyone

sunfire sucks compared to randuins. you need the slow active to kite or stick. its worth much more than the little bit of magic damage. he doesnt need the aura to waveclear either.

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Is my typical garen build. ill sub 1 armor item for a mr item if they got alot of ap damage.

my build actually heavily varies depending on the enemy team. i might switch out 1 or more items for any of these

however, the utility you get from the item actives from randuins and ghostblade is worth far more than sunfire could ever be.

people tend to forget that sunfire used to be a good midgame ite, before they nerfed the aura. now its shit mid and lategame compared to other choices.

that little bit of magic damage after resistances is barely noticable on a champ like garen who doesnt build any magic pen. however, the slow active on randuins will help him a lot to stick to targets or peel (for himself or someone else). and that WILL be noticable if utilized properly.

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In top lane duels with melee champions, sunfire on Garen is very very good. You can sell it late game, but sunfire synergizes with his E too well to claim that it's bad.

Edit for more info: the point of the Sunfire aura with his spin-to-win is to make it dangerous to even stand near Garen. The magic damage per second with his E melts, especially considering you now do magic and physical damage.

sunfire doesnt synergize as well with garen, as with ap tanks like sejuani who already deal a lot of of magic damage to surrounding enemies, take magic pen runes into the game with them and may build abyssal. it adds up to quite a lot of damage against squishy targets.

however, especially when it comes to top lane duels you can expect your opponent to build one mr item. even if its just merc treads. which severely diminishes the damage of the burn aura. lategame it barely matches a champions health regeneration.

its massively overrated. it used to be strong, when you could get it first item with 40 magic damage per second. but since the aura has been nerfed, there are so many better items.