Mordekaiser Ult and QSS

Seruvos·10/22/2019, 12:17:47 AM·4 votes·1,901 views

I haven't been on these forums much so I'm not sure if this topic has been talked into the ground or not but I would really like to highlight how insanely stupid this is for Morde.

Mordekaiser is an EXTREMELY one dimensional champion. Very "low tier" if you want to call it, in comparison to higher tier "multi dimensional" champs such as irelia, akali, yas, etc which is understandable given the position riot wants to niche him in to. He's a juggernaut that is AP. Most juggernauts are of few dimensions. They all have a many game built in to their kit. Darius is, keep your stacks low and don't allow passive to proc and ult resets. Illaio is tentacle mini game and avoiding her ult, her ult basically makes an area off limits to enemy team so they must back off. Nasus is the Q stacking game with Ult resetting massive Qs if he farmed and stacks properly, so on and so forth. You get my picture.

Morde on the other hand, does not have a mini game built in for himself. He is simply a one dimensional AP bruiser who is EXTREMELY readable but brings a very unique skill to his team that gives him a position worthy of pick. He can bring someone from the enemy team off the play field to either kill, or distract to give his team a chance in a more fair team fight. Very cool... Soooo QSS is especially an empowered cleanse that removes movement impairing debuffs, Veigar stun, Leona stuns, Naut stuns, slows, etc. Most prominently used as the "oh crap" button to allow you the ability to have a fighting chance against a heavy cc enemy team comp. But for some reason QSS works against Morde ult.... why is this? Morde ult is not a stun and you have full control of your character while you're in a Morde ult. Does Qss cause J4 ult to disappear, shattering it? Does popping Qss while a Taliyah wall is in sight of your screen cause it to crumble apart? Anivia wall? Smart non bronze/silver players build this item and basically delete Morde as a pick on your team comp.

Think if Qss caused illaio tentacles spawned from ult to vanish? Think if Qss immediately remove all darius bleeds, think is Qss insta killed Yorik's maiden, think if Qss immediately removed all weak points Fiora's ult and put it on cd? These are all fundamental abilities that are the icing on the cake that bring a champions kit together. Remember back when Qss cleansed EVERYTHING? so Malazhar would E and R you and Qss cleansed the dot, ignite, and immediately canceled malz ult on you. So Malz for the next 6-9 seconds was completely useless because he tried to combo someone.

Qss still cleanses Malz's cc porition of his ult, but does not stop the dmg from it. Very good for Malz because an item that is available every team fight, completely countering a core mechanic of his kit is quite lame. This goes for Morde the same. He's extremely one dimensional and upon higher elo with smarter plays who don't just int right clicking at you and wondering why it isn't working out, begin building Qss and this is actually awful for Morde.

Is there an explanation why Qss immediately cleanses Morde ult?

EDIT: In addition. Morde ult should not instantly counter Illaio tentacles. Very overly one sided counter pick. There literally is no counter, Illaio is obsoleted by Mordekaiser, but hey atleast it takes a whole champion to do this and not just an item any and everyone can build to help counter magic dmg as well with the MR is provides.

18 Comments

Keiaga10/22/2019, 12:52:07 AM6 votes

I was done reading as soon as you called irelia yasuo and akali, all champs who are notoriously difficult to play to their full potential, low tier. I'd assume this was a joke if you didn't put so much time into writing that wall of text that is obviously going to be filled with misinformation or flat out lies.

Z3SIeeper10/22/2019, 1:01:04 AM4 votes

So long as Morde ult completely cucks things like Illaoi tentacles, GP barrels, Teemo Shrooms, Shaco boxes, Zyra plants, Yorick ghouls, Heimer turrets, etc. I am completely in favor of QSS removing his ult so they have some form of counterplay to that bullshit.

Also it's not a complete loss for Morde, he still maintains the 10% stolen stats for the full duration of his ultimate even if it's QSS'd.

Jungle Sensei10/22/2019, 3:05:14 AM2 votes

So basically you want morde to have no counterplay ?

Kazekiba10/22/2019, 1:02:02 AM1 votes

Morde ult has a 0.5 second suppression on it, so you can qss that causing his realm thing to fail.

This is coded that way so pros can play against him and riot can try to force morde into esports