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6.22 Leblanc Rework Thoughts

TheDarkStarNinja··4 votes·1,264 views

I've been excited for the Leblanc rework, and I think that Riot really hit the mark for making Leblanc a healthy champion in terms of design. She is no longer impossible to lane against and has room for punishment for making mistakes. I think there are some things that are awkward for her:

  1. Passive takes WAY too long late game. I feel like 1.5s is fine early because opponents are weaker and less likely to blow you up while you wait for passive proc. Old QW was way too op in lane, but late game old QW punished the enemy squishies for mispositioning. Now it's impossible to do that, unless you are super fed and can burst W-->Q-->RQ-->E--> W back without activating passive, and having a passive that falls off late game is horrible (late game W will clear minions, so it won't even be useful for that). Passive time should scale down with level to make assassination faster and on par with other assassins like Rengar/Zed. I know Zed ult is delayed damage, but he can get his full damage with his spells and escape during the mark delay while Leblanc has to wait 1.5s in range for the damage or give up and run away. If the damage on the passive has to be lowered to keep it balanced I am fine with it, but 1.5s, like a lot of people agree, is just SOOO long.

  2. RR clone is nice, but doesn't deceive very well. Obviously it's an AI, but I don't like that it disappears right after it casts the spell. I've had the most success using the clone by walking in front/behind it in the enemy's vision or surprising a low-health enemy that my team is chasing. Otherwise, the clone is pretty much useless. It works right now because people don't really know that much about it, but when people know its patterns then it is utterly useless. It would be much better if it could be controlled, but it does seems op since it spawns anywhere on the map.

  3. Pressing R and then another spell is choppy. I'm not saying that it takes too long, but whenever I press R and then another spell immediately the spell never activates, and I don't notice until it's too late. In addition to pressing R and another spell, I have to wait between R and Q/W/E. What's really nice about the R toggle though is that it can be activated during zhonyas :)

I don't think that Leblanc should be reverted, because I do feel that it's just too easy to burst someone (not necessarily killing them) with point-and-click Q-R-(maybe E) and have so much mobility to run away with W and no delay on its snapback. Obviously I am not a pro (but don't rate me on rank because I don't play ranked), so its fine if people disagree. These are just my thoughts on LB.

7 Comments

ChaddyFantome1 votes

I once walked right up to the enemy 5 grouped up and then auto attacked their tank and then killed their adc because i tricked them into thinking i was a RR clone by imitating it's pattern.

TheDarkStarNinja1 votes

LOL THAT'S AMAZING I wish things like that happen, but isn't the clone supposed to cast the spell and then disappear, doing nothing else? People don't know about lb clone lol

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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LOL THAT'S AMAZING I wish things like that happen, but isn't the clone supposed to cast the spell and then disappear, doing nothing else? People don't know about lb clone lol

Yes but i purposefully came from a random angle and walked up to the nearest person, which is what the clone does.

Why would an LB do that, right?

Well that's why i did it. ;3

Another time, I was defending a tower and i stepped back, went around then made my clone walk up the lane and then ambushed them from the side brush as they thought the clone was me since they thought i was just walking back in to lane.

Another game, I ran into a taric in the jungle and "chased him with my clone". I tryied "baiting" i into a bush we had warded and Casseopia was waiting t Ulti me. Burned her Ulti and proceeded to kill her in her jungle after for a game winning play.

You can do a lot with the clone, you just gotta know how to work with it's A.I. in mind.

TheDarkStarNinja2 votes

Yeah, the clone can be fun to play with :) Once I was walking up to an ori with the clone in front of me, failed to kill her, and gave up. Then I see from the corner of my eye ori ult :3

But I feel like when people start to learn how the clone works the only successful plays with it will be super risky and super high reward like yours, and I feel it is rather unreliable. Maybe that is intentional, and Leblanc's skill ceiling is limitless lol

Astôlfo1 votes

tfw people who know nothing about LB downvote lul

Calabok1 votes

asking for a buff for LB is retarded.

TheDarkStarNinja1 votes

At this point, probably true, but I feel like the passive becomes useless after you get snowballing. Q-->RQ-->E-->W or some combination of those is usually enough to kill squishies without triggering the passive. The problem I have is that the passive basically remains unused after you have enough damage or the enemy team has enough damage to kill you before the 1.5 seconds.

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