10 minute ff timer.

Sometimes people dont wanna surrender, let them be

If you dont like it then afk and get banned

The community doesnt want people like you anyways so its a win-win

No.

Too extreme dude. Also illogical.

There's a 15 and 20 minute ff, so complaining about 30 minutes makes no sense. And 3/5 majority should maybe work, but only after 30 minutes.

Like I said, way too extreme.

just stay in base or farm sidelanes and ask politely for the enemy to push mid, do baron/herald, etc. nothing you can do if you have a retard or two in your team sadly

I don't want premades dictating everything in League again, thanks

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we need this now, it sucks being stuck in a game for 30 minutes. also 3/5 majority should carry at all levels.

Just no.

And I will give you reasons why.

1. In probably my last 50 games, I have WON probably 5 games where 3 out of 5 said yes to a surrender at some point in the game. One of them being a person that said in champ select that he was smurfing and he wanted twitch jung. His op.gg was like 50/2 in his games. Our bot lane got dumpstered, they both were bitching and throwing up the ff. Low and behold our twitch finally got his much needed items and he popped off and went like 18/7 and we won. Each game I have won when someone tried to ff with 3/5 vote was similar to that situation, but this situation was the most recent.

2. With baron buff and elder, if you can make it to late game (30 mins+) and manage to get either of those buffs, it can seriously swing a game. Seriously, at 10 mins, It's highly unlikely that anyone even has first item. I understand some games are harder to win that others...but a 10 min ff is just dumb.

3. I'd rather stick it out in a 45 min win, than: 10 min surrender 5 mins to requeue 5 mins for champ select and loading screen 20 mins to see if I might win or lose anyway.

Stick it out. I mean if they are already hitting your inhibs at 12 mins in and a comeback is near impossible, throw up a ff at 15 in hopes everyone wants to just requeue. If someone says no to that one, just wait it out.

It should be 5 minutes, or no timer at all. @Sadolm: "Community" means nothing in as much as there are just as many people or a close percentage of players who agree and disagree about everything about how the game is to be enjoyed. Because your 10 friends don't like to FF, does not mean any "community" is worth mentioning here. Also what you are saying does not take into account soft-inting as the players who don't care as much about winning as having fun, when being gated from their freedom. People who wan't to the leave game, and can't, will simply no longer care or try to win. The only thing you have to do to not get banned is not type.

@OmMani: Basically saying that games that could have been forfeit could have also been won. Wwhat this says to me is that you think that the only thing that matters is whether or not you win. Not all players care as much about getting wins as they do about enjoying their free time playing a video game for fun. People with busy lives who only have time for 1 or 2 games every once in a while do not want to spend 45 minutes not having fun just so that they can win.

@Sylther: There are many, many ways to combat premade bullying if there was further development into the forfeiting system. As a crude and simple example, it could be that, say, one team of 5 has a group of three and two solo players, the vote could be reduced to four points and the premade is allotted two votes while the solo players get one each and that a majority of 4/4 is mandatory for a 5-10 minute FF and 3/4 for a 15 minute FF. Another could be for a 4-1 split, to have it be two vote where it needs to be 100% in order to FF. There are many, many things to be done.

For normal i would only allow earlier, than 15 min. surrender, if someone is afk for 5 minutes at least. You should at least try a bit. Unless 4v5 situation, because i agree, that it's unwinnable unless your team is much stronger. But if your team is that stronger then they will not surr. anyway.

For ranked i would disable surrender until one team is ahead of gold by a certain ratio, or value. Not sure how much %, or ammount would be required, but the point is that you couldn't surrender unless the enemy is ahead enough. It would serve 2 purpose.

1. No easy give up, because you lost lane. Maybe another lane wins hard, and wins the game. Also no surrender spam so easily.
2. If you actually can surrender, then it's always somewhat justified at least. Unless you got some extreme scaling champion in the team, or infinite stacker, then enemy has to throw hard to lose.