does vi work on any team?

Haunted Chef·Oct 25, 2015·1 votes·557 views

it just seems like everything she does gets thoroughly outclassed by someone else. playing her for the damage? she's not sticky enough, pick yi. playing her for the cc? it's single-target, pick malphite. playing her for damage and cc at the same time? you could've just picked wukong.

i've messed around with a few builds, and it really just seems like everything she can do there's another champion that can do it better. do people pick her for her build diversity or something?

help me out here people, she seems like an irredeemable champion.

12 Comments

OnimarusOct 25, 20153 votes

She's possibly one of the best jungle picks you could choose. Her free damage boost and attack speed from W, her AA cancel + AoE damage buff from E, and her insane burst and wave clear from Q > AA > E just makes her a terror to be against. Not to mention her passive just makes her significantly more tanky as the game goes on.

How are you building her? If you're doing something stupid I could understand why you feel she's outclassed.

Haunted ChefOct 25, 20151 votes

a friend of mine told me to try devourer, but i already know that's garbage. i tried bruiser with warrior, but i never felt like i did much damage, even though i had a finished triforce and black cleaver.

OnimarusOct 25, 20152 votes

The fact that you think devourer is garbage on VI pretty much says everything.

Haunted ChefOct 25, 20151 votes

"garbage" was a little too strong of a word. "inconsistent" is more fitting.

ArkantasaOct 25, 20151 votes

no. my vi is the true DEMON vi. ;) Vi is honestly my fav jungler lol. she's tanks, she has so much cc, unavoidable ult and a %max hp physical dmg passive which also grants her attack speed. wooo

Haunted ChefOct 25, 20151 votes

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no. my vi is the true DEMON vi. ;) Vi is honestly my fav jungler lol. she's tanks, she has so much cc, unavoidable ult and a %max hp physical dmg passive which also grants her attack speed. wooo

but, i mean... let's look at wukong. -better cc -more damage -free tank stats -easy escapes

the only thing vi beats him out on is tank shred. if the opposing team only has one tank, as they usually do, it doesn't seem worth it to pick her.

DediguiseOct 25, 20154 votes

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but, i mean... let's look at wukong. -better cc -more damage -free tank stats -easy escapes

the only thing vi beats him out on is tank shred. if the opposing team only has one tank, as they usually do, it doesn't seem worth it to pick her.

That's not entirely true. Wu needs an enemy to dash to. His "better" CC is on a long cooldown. His free tank stats are better in the teamfight phase, but less effective during laning. His w is countered by sweeper and pink wards. He is much more mana restrictive. Low mobility means less map pressure and less buff control. He only has one dash. And vi technically has two forms of cc. At first glance they may have similar roles, but they have different powerspikes and overall goals.

DediguiseOct 25, 20151 votes

https://youtu.be/r5eQZeoikK0

Vi is great if the enemy team has a very mobile adc (kalista vayne) and you need to lock them down. She has a flexible build path and she can either burst squishy champs or set up team fights. She loses to Tahm Kench in any role. She is not a good choice for blind picking, but she certainly has her place.

NiyumiOct 25, 20151 votes

She fits into teams that have a strong follow up. Vi is a jungle that's very independent, and doesn't really need a team to do what she does. She is INCREDIBLY bursty if you build her right, INCREDIBLY tanky, and has an awesome personality.

I usually take Vi if I don't trust my team to follow up on my ganks. :P

Unlike Yi, she doesn't die immediately, and can be plenty sticky if you save Q and R, and build Randuin's.

Unlike Mal, she has high damage in AoE, is a lot more mobile, and has an up to date model.

Unlike Wu, her CC isn't avoidable as easy, and can't be countered by a pink ward -- and she's a lot more fun to play.

Haunted ChefOct 25, 20151 votes

maybe i'm just uncomfortable with her, but the Q cooldown makes me cringe. i never feel tanky enough to be in teamfights either, as i get exploded pretty fast, even when i'm building tanky. as for aoe damage... well... the e doesn't exactly do much damage, it's pretty much just an autoattack reset. i don't really want to build hydra vi.

NiyumiOct 25, 20151 votes

She does take some getting used to. Start out maxing E, then Q, then W. Build a Warrior, then Tabi or Merc Treads, Triforce, Randuin's or Dead Man's, Banshee's, and finish off with a Black Cleaver. You have so much damage and survivability from this build that it's kind of silly. :P

If you can gank without using Q to get into lane, walk up to someone, AA, E, AA, Q (don't charge it), AA, E, AA and anyone will be dead at that point. When you hit 6, throw your R when they start to run away if you need it.

Your E is the source of most of your burst. With a Triforce and Warrior, it does 700-900 damage, and crits for up 1300 if you use it to proc W. The splash damage has a huge range, and you can snipe people under towers by hitting a minion. :P