Elise is LAST place as a jungler and almost last place in popularity aka picked in play

19 19 19·4/3/2015, 11:16:07 PM·18 votes·2,495 views

This champion needs to be fixed, the new jungle made it more harder for her and the fact that she can't even sustain or do enough damage to anything now.

She needs to come back and be in the top with the other junglers.

31 Comments

XxxLumberJackxxX4/3/2015, 11:33:10 PM8 votes

She sustains just fine if you know how to use her spiderlings to tank the minions.

Her issue is a complete lack of dmg and not enough utility to make up for it. Also her itemization in the jungle is extremely lackluster.

khorney4/4/2015, 12:02:55 AM2 votes

Well she was fine when the ap jingle item had spell vamp . which they shpuld bring back

darkdill4/3/2015, 11:17:35 PM2 votes

Impossible. Riot hates Champions who have an identity crisis because they're imbalanceable. Elise is such a case: is she a tank, assassin, mage, or fighter? She can go along too many paths, and thus has to suck at all of them to avoid being broken.

I don't disagree with your topic, but I'm just being realistic. They probably have bigger priorities right now, so don't expect Elise to be getting much love soon.

Ixtali Empress4/4/2015, 2:08:01 AM1 votes

Elise is fine I believe :P she has ok damage if used correctly (human while high hp and spider while low) and her spiderlings can tank for sustain also her cc is ok if you use it correctly. Although I only played her twice since she was tweaked last with the movement speed and rappel changes Elise

khorney4/4/2015, 5:37:21 AM1 votes

Well she was good till they nerfed the heck out of her rappel. Like the only champ in the game whose single target spell having.a max range. Gfto here. Her damage is unique though . raising the % on her q maybe good or the ap ratio on it but who knows

Aylio4/4/2015, 6:57:05 AM1 votes

But she was so fun to play and had such a high skill cap that everyone was playing her and was still going to play her even if she was bad. Obviously that wasn't the case. Makes me wonder about those who make the same arguments about Lee and Zed.

She does need buffs though to allow her to have a reason to play her, but she's never going to be a top tier jungler the way this season's jungle is set up.

Third Reign4/4/2015, 11:17:07 AM1 votes

Her damage is a bit lackluster. If I 5piont Q a 100% health adc and take off 200 health and get a return autoattack for equal values, something is off.

I want to know how her damage would turn out if they change the modal 8% current/missing on her Q1 and 2 to 8% max on both. Many other champs have %-max health damage with higher values, Sejuani gets 12% max, Maokai 13% (no base dmg), and Gnar gets 14%.

Another Idea might be to leave her low damage, but remove the cap to monsters entirely. This would make her good at objective control and shift her role in the team with strong pressure in fights over objectives.

idoki4/4/2015, 5:05:07 PM1 votes

Elise is nothing right now in terms of role: is she an AP assassin? Is she an aura carrier bruiser? Is she an AP front-line bruiser? Or is she a back-line mage? Until Riot decides on a role for Elise she'll either be underpowered and overshadowed by other champions or overpowered and overshadowing other champions. That's the TL;DR of Elise's problem.

ThePlasticSpork4/4/2015, 5:28:23 PM1 votes

The few times I've jungled Elise I've been able to clear the whole jungle and then some. Most of the time, after clearing 4 camps, I come out with over 75% health. Her clear is fine - its everywhere else that she has problems.

If anything, if she gets any buffs significant enough to return her to viability with the current iteration of her kit then her clear would probably need to be nerfed. With her clear as it is, if she's strong, she will have no exploitable weaknesses whatsoever.

UPfreely4/4/2015, 7:06:21 PM1 votes

buff her spiders

JChaosMaster4/7/2015, 5:26:27 PM1 votes

Her spider e is junk if you use quick cast because she just jumps and drops. Plus she has to be standing completely still for her to use it.

I really like elise but she kinda fails with almost all her attacks being single target attacks besides 1. Along with them not really having no real burst either.

Oddysseas4/4/2015, 12:11:33 AM1 votes

She is complicated af, i wasted my rp for her

CubedJustice4/4/2015, 1:18:28 AM1 votes

Well, I mean, somebody has to be last place, don't they?