@Meddler/@Scarizard Can we please get a preview of Zyras upcoming changes?

misfortunas··12 votes·3,608 views

As a Zyra main, I was more than excited to hear there are some changes in the works. But apparently they are delayed till 5.18. Can we get a preview/some infos about those changes and what direction you want to go with her please? =)

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RiotMeddler13 votes

Current thinking: Zyra's a good candidate for some small work. Let's start by looking at plant AI.

That's as far as we've got, this is work that will be looked into soon, but hasn't yet started.

Nausicäa 3 votes

Higher base stats please? She needs more move speed and more hp, other cc mages/bursty mages have higher move speed.

Also can you semi revert the previous nerf and raise her passive CDR to 15% on W. Having 35% with Athenes/Morellos is awkward.

jjookkeerr7 votes

plz tell me you will do the same for sona, we all know that she suffer from the same problem as zyra. Both are ap reliant and right now tanky supports are way stronger than ap suopports due the superiority of tanky sup itemization.

KoKoboto1 votes

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plz tell me you will do the same for sona, we all know that she suffer from the same problem as zyra. Both are ap reliant and right now tanky supports are way stronger than ap suopports due the superiority of tanky sup itemization.

Sona doesn't suffer the same problems as Zyra as Sona is more purely support and Zyra is a more mage but people like taking her support like Annie (that was a lot of likes). And their isn't much tanky support itemization, they're are tanky items that tanks buy << and if you are a tanky support you can buy them too albeit they don't necessarily HELP your team thaat much. item 3060 item 3001 item 3050 item 3023

Sona suffers the problem of just qwe w/e and you're helping your team, thats why its difficult to buff her because shes really not doing anything that demands too much skill, shes like low risk low rewards as she dosen't take much risk so she has basic rewards.

MCBiggah994 votes

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Current thinking: Zyra's a good candidate for some small work. Let's start by looking at plant AI.

That's as far as we've got, this is work that will be looked into soon, but hasn't yet started.

What do you think about giving her MS around her plants?

PopCorn Chick3n2 votes

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Current thinking: Zyra's a good candidate for some small work. Let's start by looking at plant AI.

That's as far as we've got, this is work that will be looked into soon, but hasn't yet started.

First of all, thank you for replying the post. In my opinion, her plants are decent at early level (damage is fine). Later on mid-late game, her plants would die instantly or become useless if being hit by AOE abilities like Miss Fortune E (Make It Rain). So I think that you can buff her plants' health by Zyra's level? or make the plants take at least take some damage from abilities and not die instantly? I also like the idea that Zyra gets some movement speed when she is close to her plants. This could be her passive or her W's passive. I think the cool down on her W passive is not that useful and can be remove because I think most Zyra's players max Q first and then E second, then Ultimate, and finally W. This means that you only need to put 1 point in W (2% cd bonus) which later will be max last. So exchanging the CD bonus to movement speed bonus when Zyra is close to her plants should be meaningful in her kit. Sorry for my bad English lol. Thank you for reading.

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KoKoboto1 votes

I totally agree with plants using health that could scale instead of 3 attacks<< its so annoying when you place plants and they instantly died because enemy champion used a skill or minions just agro it @-@

RedCyclone3 votes

And what of Sona? All we seem to see about her is "We don't know"

Star Of Love7 votes

I just hope/pray you guys do her justice /_\

#InMeddlerWeTrust

kneel on Ice2 votes

And what about a new skin for her ? christmas ? snow flowers o

ExecutorDill1 votes

Why are you nerfing shen?

CoolKnightST4 votes

I really hope she remains viable for support.

DanofDemacia3 votes

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I really hope she remains viable for support.

no

Hex the FenFen3 votes

Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with you lol idk if for the same reason but she needs to be a mid laner, i main her mid. She was meant to be a mid laner so i hope they dont banish her to the support role just because people took her there after her first round of nerfs.

KoKoboto1 votes

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I really hope she remains viable for support.

ANY CHAMPION THAT HAS CC IS VIABLE AS SUPPORT /scratch that/ ANY CHAMPION IS VIABLE AS SUPPORT e-e The only reason Zyra would not be chosen as a support after changes is if they nerfed her base damages cause they're pretty high which is the ONLY reason people play Zyra support aside from liking Zyra in the support role.

IxtaliKing4 votes

I feel like Zyra's plants should also have some special interaction with bushes, perhaps making them last longer since they'd be in their natural habitat. Tbh I'd love to see what riot could with Zyra now if they were to give her a real champ update like the Juggernauts got.

KoKoboto2 votes

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I feel like Zyra's plants should also have some special interaction with bushes, perhaps making them last longer since they'd be in their natural habitat. Tbh I'd love to see what riot could with Zyra now if they were to give her a real champ update like the Juggernauts got.

Wow I never thought about that O-O, I also wouldnt mind waiting past 5.18 if we we're able to get bigger changes to Zyra and not just number changes if thats what would happen.

MCBiggah993 votes

Hey, @Meddler , you should give her some extra MS when she's around her plants :)

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