PLS end preseason early

ttv Pennywise·Dec 1, 2018·32 votes·12,594 views

i cant take these 4fun games in this 4fun region anymore

51 Comments

SaevumDec 1, 201819 votes

What is this.. 'Fun' that you preach of?

Necro Warrior87Dec 2, 20181 votes

I've heard it is a majestical thing, known only to those who... shudder ... don't mind losing.

Z3SleeperDec 2, 20185 votes

It's a word we use to excuse inting. It has no other meaning in ranked games.

ModWulf HelhammerDec 1, 201810 votes

It’s offseason. Every sport has them.

A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.

Stop treating it like it’s the World Championship.

SpongebobIsLifeDec 1, 20182 votes

the game feels even more toxic than usual. People are trolling, picking things that shouldnt be picked because it's "pre-season". In my last 5 games, i've had a garen support, a rengar support, ap teemo adc (with a full ap comp), and other things that shouldnt be played. A few games beyond that, i played against a leo jg who obviously was useless, oh and i had a ww that intended 3 kills and then randomly afk...this was all in like 10 games or so.

Regular season is terrible but pre season is even more so because people literally don't care.

Pika FoxDec 1, 20182 votes

Sounds like youre complaining just to complain. If people wanna play garen or rengar support or teemo adc, theyre free to do so. Youd probably enjoy the game more if you just played it instead of bitching at every little non issue.

ArfBarkBoofDec 1, 20181 votes

Usually in Ranked, ideally you want to win and climb the ladder. Rengar support and Teemo ADC make this much, much harder.

Pika FoxDec 2, 20181 votes

Not really. Theyre usually the ones that carry. Shit, AD Leblanc is garbage, yet there are AD leblanc 1 tricks in master.

McnilesderpDec 3, 20181 votes

what ad lb mains are in high elo?

Pika FoxDec 3, 20181 votes

There are a few in korea in master. Fuck if i know their names. There was also a support kat 1 trick in master ELO in either NA or EU.

SpongebobIsLifeDec 1, 20183 votes

actually, they were not on my team, they were on the enemy team. So, you should check that first before coming at someone. The adc was practically playing the lane by themselves as their supports were actually useless. Same with the leo jg. The ww one was the only one that was actually in my game.

This trend in pre-season has not only been noticed by me and several other players, but you can see several high elo/professional streamers complaining about the drastic drop in quality in their games in the last few weeks.

TheBrothersGrymmDec 2, 20181 votes

People playing troll champs in roles is an issue it ruins the quality of your game, the fact you think it isnt an issue makes me think you play garen supp o.o with no relic sheild

Pika FoxDec 2, 20181 votes

Its literally not an issue. The issues are people that give up, afk, surrender, open mid, or int. Playing someone in a role theyre not normally picked is literally none of these. Learn to play the game and stop complaining about non issues.

McnilesderpDec 3, 20181 votes

you basically afk playing garen support lmao if i had one id rather just tell them go to another lane so i get more exp by myself

TheBrothersGrymmDec 5, 20181 votes

O.O i mean people afk when they get a troll supp who does nothing, you surrender when you literally cant win, you open mid prolly because of a troll pick or an inter, they are issues because they lead to issues, play ranked get a troll supp lose LP for that reason it is an issue

Pika FoxDec 5, 20181 votes

The person who AFKs is the problem, not the "troll support". People surrender because theyre bad, people open mid because theyre, again, bad.

Theres no such thing as a troll pick. You can pick anyone anywhere. Trolling would be playing mana regen shen or blocking your team intentionally with anivia walls.

ttv PennywiseDec 1, 20183 votes

6 wits end diana (A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.) PTA elise jg (A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.) brand jg (A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.)

so you want me to treat LoL like a sport but also not to treat it as if im trying to get to the world championship? if you want (A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.) then go play NORMAL GAMES. A WHOLE PLAYLIST DEDICATED TO (A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.) DONT GO INTO MY RANKED GAMES WHERE I CAN BUFFER MY MMR FOR NEXT SEASON AND PLAY RYZE WITH LETHAL TEMPO AS A (A chance to practice, get better, find new stratigies and compositions.)

IllabetheDec 1, 20185 votes

You do realize that Preseason play rolls over into the first 2-3 months of the Ranked season, right, and for a lot of players, the entire year?

Also, you're asking them to fast track and ignore fixing the problems with the balance of the early ranked season in exchange for the hope that players will play more responsibly.

GigglesODec 1, 201810 votes

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Also, you're asking them to fast track and ignore fixing the problems with the balance of the early ranked season

They do that anyways...

IllabetheDec 1, 20182 votes

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They do that anyways...

Last Year they had 3 adjustment patches before the Preseason ended, and 3 more already scheduled and testing for January on the PBE.

Fixing problems doesn't always come in the form players like or expect, but you have a really short memory if you think they didn't balance some things. Just in those 6 patches alone, they reworked Zoe 3 times, averaging 1 adjustment every 2 weeks without even gathering information on her. because players wanted her killed that bad.

Z3SleeperDec 2, 20181 votes

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Just in those 6 patches alone, they ~~reworked~~ shifted numbers around on Zoe 3 times instead of fixing core issues that still persist to this day.

ftfy. And that basically sums up what they do nowadays.

IllabetheDec 2, 20181 votes

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ftfy. And that basically sums up what they do nowadays.

Except that's NOT what they did:

-They made Tenacity and cleanses affect the sleep. -They reduced the post wall range of E. -They reduced the size of E. -They took away the cooldown reduction of E when it hits.

-They took away one of the procs of her Passive when using Q. -They drastically reduced Q's damage.

-They removed several items from proccing with W from minions.

The only thing that got buffed (and was buffed MUCH later) was that they increased the base move speed on W, and a slight increase to the damage caused by W.

She is now completely incapable of carrying a team. All her stats support this thesis.

-She gains no actual win rate when playing her a lot and gaining mastery. -She is the lowest win rate champion pre 40 minutes. -Her micro mechanics don't excel at clearing waves -Has one of the worst KDA's of any champ in the game.

Z3SleeperDec 2, 20181 votes

A champion who can win a lane through sheer RNG can be balanced. But they'll never not be broken. Zoe Tryndamere

Broken =/= OP. Balanced =/= not broken.

IllabetheDec 2, 20181 votes

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A champion who can win a lane through sheer RNG can be balanced. But they'll never not be broken.

Broken =/= OP. Balanced =/= not broken.

What are you even talking about? Tryndamere and Zoe are in VERY different pressure classes, methodologies, and presence.....

Tryndamere isn't RNG. Zoe is. And her RNG really doesn't support winning..... Tryndamere can literally just Turret destroy, even if a team isn't carrying him. Zoe can't do that at all.

And half the champion roster is a lane menace to other laners. That was nothing new with Zoe. She has her lanes which are nightmarish to encounter. She also has lane counters. Are you saying half the champ roster is Broken, because they can force a lane versus other laners?

For example.... Yasuo into an Ahri . I'm pretty sure the community considers both broken.... but Yasuo hands down wins this lane 90% of the time. Fizz is also an Ahri lane plague.

Or what about Garen into a Riven ? Garen wins this matchup almost certainly every game. Riven's skills are disrupted by his silence, and then he just owns her. She can't even farm vs a Garen.

Z3SleeperDec 2, 20181 votes

You're delving way too deep into possible meaning behind my statement.

Ima need you to take a huge step back and look at it again but only take the face value this time. There is no underlying meaning.

"A champion who can win a lane through sheer RNG can be balanced. But they'll never not be broken."

I'm not comparing them, I'm not saying either is OP, I'm not saying either is oppressive, I'm not saying they win lane purely through only RNG, etc. Anything else you could possibly come up with out of thin air like you did before just put in the blank space here: "I'm not saying that ___."

You also simply cannot argue against the fact that it is RNG. Crit Chance above 0% and below 100% is RNG. It's literally chance. Zoe's W drops are pure RNG as well. These are indisputable facts.

IllabetheDec 2, 20181 votes

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You're delving way too deep into possible meaning behind my statement.

Ima need you to take a huge step back and look at it again but only take the face value this time. There is no underlying meaning.

"A champion who can win a lane through sheer RNG can be balanced. But they'll never not be broken."

I'm not comparing them, I'm not saying either is OP, I'm not saying either is oppressive, I'm not saying they win lane purely through only RNG, etc. Anything else you could possibly come up with out of thin air like you did before just put in the blank space here: "I'm not saying that ___."

You also simply cannot argue against the fact that it is RNG. Crit Chance above 0% and below 100% is RNG. It's literally chance. Zoe's W drops are pure RNG as well. These are indisputable facts.

Tryn doesn't win lanes by dueling, and you don't crit turrets unless you have certain items. Tryn wins lanes by suicide pushing turrets, and having inflated AD while he is 1 HP ulting.

Z3SleeperDec 3, 20181 votes

Oh no you did it again :(

Sorry bud but once again I did not say they win exclusively just only by RNG alone without anything else.

All I said is, now stay with me, all i said was:

A champion
Who can (not will) win through sheer RNG (did I say only??? No.)
Can be balanced but will never not be broken (you can make old AP Yi a perfect 50% winrate but that kit would still be broken)

With that said, as clearly as humanly possible, there is absolutely no way you can misinterpret it this time.

Did I ever say “Tryn wins lanes by dueling”? No. Did I ever say “Tryn crits turrets”? No. Did I ever even mention anything about how he wins lane other than that he can potentially win via bs RNG??? No. So stop assuming.

2Charmnot2CharmDec 1, 20187 votes

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Also, you're asking them to fast track and ignore fixing the problems with the balance of the early ranked season in exchange for the hope that players will play more responsibly.

This is riot we are talking about, they won't fix shit by the time pre season ends.

They should be thankful their art and music team is carrying their asses.

WoodenCreatureDec 1, 20182 votes

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This is riot we are talking about, they won't fix shit by the time pre season ends.

They should be thankful their art and music team is carrying their asses.

that's the whole thing they only care all of thier bilions are redirected towards the art team. The client is in miserable state and it can be fixed so easily but they absolutely do not care about stuff that do not make $$$ EA cosplaying.

SaevumDec 3, 20182 votes

They should be thankful their art and music team is carrying their asses.

Teamwork OP.

TheBrothersGrymmDec 2, 20181 votes

what is this "balance" you speak of riot has no idea either

IllabetheDec 2, 20181 votes

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what is this "balance" you speak of riot has no idea either

I know it's fun to poke holes and troll on comments that don't quite mesh with what you believe occurs...... but it stands that they do in fact adjust several things in Preseason and the subsequent patches to make certain things more manageable.

There is no such thing as Balance, and never will be. There's too many coexisting factors to ever reach "balance"

NumberOneBallerDec 2, 20181 votes

Bro, can you just stop?

IllabetheDec 2, 20181 votes

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Bro, can you just stop?

Stop what?

NumberOneBallerDec 3, 20181 votes

TheBrothersGrymmDec 5, 20181 votes

there is balence in games, riot just dosnt care, dark harvest never should proc on abaility remove that the rune is balenced, not making every new chmap super mobile or have stealth is balence, reowrking old champs and not making them broken is balence, nerfing ap items becuase there too cheap and stong compaired to ad ones is balence, one simple fact of riot dosnt care is they removed the jungle funnel safty net, GUESS WHAT happened oh right funneling again, riot gave up on league plain and simple new players wont want to play this garabge thats why riot stopped releasing player count atleast accurate ones

deadlychuckDec 1, 20184 votes

Unfortunately riot can't decide if they want normals to be 4fun or 4practice.

And they've made blindpick unplayable and nearly impossible to play 4fun with their champion design.

WoodakoodashoodaDec 1, 20182 votes

There's this thing.

It's special and important to some people, but may not be special and important to others.

It takes place during the month of December.

Hundreds of millions of people consider it traditional and a reason to celebrate.

It starts with the letter H and it generally involves a break from having to work.

I'll let you have a go at guessing what I'm talking about, but you could always use google if you're stumped.

Romans VI XXIIIDec 1, 20184 votes

Hanukkah.

Pretty sure more people celebrate Christmas, and even more New Years.

PS, yes I know you are refuring to "Holidays" for "H" but lets not be "politically correct" and call it what it is.

Pika FoxDec 1, 20181 votes

Call it what it is?..... the holidays?

Z3SleeperDec 2, 20181 votes

"Can't wait for holiday break." "Can't wait for Christmas break."

Hmmm... yeah no, I'm sticking with Christmas, sounds better.

ttv PennywiseDec 1, 20182 votes

"its a holiday so better int in ranked for the next 3 months" ??????????? XD

GravesingerDec 2, 20182 votes

What, did you forget that you're playing a game as a non-professional? Unless you're Challenger, rank means nothing more than a free skin from being in/above Gold. The league community at learge needs to stop dumping on people for trying to have fun so long as they're still trying at all.

JanakinDec 1, 20181 votes

True. They won't fix the game during preseason anyway.

RekSai CoffeeCoDec 1, 20181 votes

Only if they have ranked only on NB and TT till they fix SR as they don't know how to balance champions/items/roles for it.

MisticWarriorDec 1, 20181 votes

everyone trolls in preseason. and I just wanna climb sooner.

Pika FoxDec 1, 20181 votes

Its unlikely to happen. The holiday season is coming up, it would be stupid to start a grind fest during a time where people arent going to have any time.