Udyr Development in the future +thoughts from an veteran udyr

Firstly,thank you for reading this thread.Let me introduce myself and the reason of this discussion: Im a one trick pony udyr main on eune,plat 4 at the moment ,962 best udyr world at the time and 4th highest mastery points on udyr eune .My friends asked me about my opinion on the udyr minirework and how i would balance him, and because i played this champion for about 3 years i think it would not hurt to say my opinion here ,since meddler said they are still looking to change udyr in the next patches ,and maybe i am lucky and a rioter will see this post.

Q-the rework was a nerf for his q ,before if you played tiger he was ad dependent ,now he is as and ad dependent ,and there arent too many items that give those stats...Tho...the stacks on his werent bad ,its an intresting addition to his kit,this could work pretty good if udyr gets a higher base dmg on q or somthing add to his ad scaling something like 20%~25% (im saying this because ,the rework was a double nerf for udyr's q since the dot dmg got nerfed and the persisten effect which gave bonus ad while in tiger is gone hit udyr pretty hard.)Thats about it for tiger.

W-Lately udyr has been more like an assasin ,so a lot of people just put a point in w and then max e because the hp you gain from w doesnt rise when you level it up.I know that you want to drive people to play udyr more like a tank but nobody is doing that at the moment because :1.there are generally 2 ways to go tank udyr(tiger or phoenix,on tiger as i stated above,you need as and ad to do something and you dont have aoe, so you would buy a titanic hydra for that ,but you dont do enough dmg right now since you dont have as,so people just preffer to stick to a more dmg oriented build than tank, on top of that cinderhulk got nerfed(I understand that you nerfed cinderhulk for the tank rework ,but honestly from what i know rito wants to give kinda a specific character for each champion ,for ex:yasuo is that ad bruiser ,katarina is that ap carry mage and so on ,nerfing an item and not the champion its not too great because... in this exemple were you nerfed the cinderhulk and not the champion you open for them a new buildpath that does stray from their specific character ,eg some sejuani players prefer to go full ap instead of tank ,this happened to zac aswell) the second way of playing tank udyr is phoenix ,and sorry for the terminology but phoenix tank is just garbage... the sustain is extremely bad because you dont do enough dmg since the nerfs with runic echos that werent reverted back...Second thing is that courage of the colossus is nerfed ,and i know you dont like to admit it(talking to riot) but...cough coughtanks arent doing too good until high elo ,just an oberservation a lot of people did ,because you need sinergy in a team and to trust your team ,so until like high plat hypercarries still dominate the meta...Honestly on this ability im not quite sure how to fix it...easiest way would be to put some scaling on w like you get more hp for putting a point in it ,or reverting back to life steal ,but im pretty sure you guys dont want that...

E-this ability is something emblematic to udyr ,more or less,the only things i have to say about this ability is that udyr needs some kind of slow resist/tenacity/movspeed towards enemies/taking less dmg while in e or having rised resistances while you have the 5 second effect on you. Nowadays a lot of champs have dashes ,now to add a dash to udyr wouldnt be a good variant,hard to balance and above of that,you need to fit that in the lore(i mean i have never seen a teleporting bear)Second thing ,it would be nice to have some kind of dmg boost on e like everytime you activate your e it deals x dmg (after all a bear is punching you in the face,that should hurt),and you could scale this with a lot of stuff ap,armor,ad,hp ,i think it would fit pretty good.

R-this is very problematic...This ability is almost forgotten because its weak,to get this ability back in shape you would just need to reverse the nerfs and lower the ap scalings

Another posibility would be to higher his base stats ,not his scaling stats because the game now shifted to a more early mid game ,this game doesnt focus much on late game right now.

Before i end this thread ,i want to say that the things i said about those abilities are just some ideas that come from a veteran udyr player to help you guide on how to balance this champion,i just gave my opinion on each ability.If you like my ideas or just want udyr to be updated ,plz vote this thread for a rioter to see,if you have another idea im open to argue.

Thanks for everybody who made it to the end of this disscution!