Riot why is jungle so much more boring now?

MysticFlameHaze·Nov 24, 2016·5 votes·780 views

Smiting is so point less, besides securing a monster. you dont even need to smite late game because you destroy camps before they can harm you and there are no buffs to help you for an upcoming fight, search for wards, giving yourself a little bit of a thornmail, turret damage or holding some kind of vision using wolves when your team is very behind. Blue buff will no longer give AP bonus making it less important to fight for or give your mid laner, red buff is weaker now and you dont have to look at which champion on your team could make it work the best.

It's all so lame. literally any champion can jungle right now(not really supports), it doesnt mean your ganks or potential are going to be good but they can all clear the jungle after a delay. But come on there is no variation or priority in there anymore. This is all my opinion and i wouldn't mind hearing what some of you think.

7 Comments

Barkingspider73Nov 25, 20162 votes

Yeah, I was trying to think about why Jungle is so much different this preseason than it was in this last season. It is cause now there is no strategy in a clear now. Smiting gromp for the poison shield, saving smite for wolves for vision to prevent early invades, smiting gromp for more mana for the ap junglers, smiting krugs for stun, saving smite for red buff to secure if invaded, smiting raptors for vision control.... it all added so much strategy to a clear that the new plants just don't make up for.

I understand that Riot wanted to mix up something that might have been starting to feel stale for some people, but removing smite bonuses just made it worse in my opinion. Now everything just feels ...same-y. Every camp, with the exception of blue and red, might as well all be the same minion. None of them contribute any added difference to the game other than how they attack. While I am not a fan of the plants, some people do like them. I just feel like it adds another RNG element in a game which feels like it is starting to have too many RNG elements already.

While I am not sure jungle is in need of a complete overhaul yet, I definitely think it is something Riot is going to have to evaluate the health of for mid-season patch.

RequiemsfireNov 25, 20162 votes

Personally I like the new jungle, almost any jungler can function in it, though they should really avoid camps they can't complete early on( Fiddlesticks Some will certainly need to be changed to fit it properly), the plants create a new kind of decision making whereas knowing where they are and when could influence the outcome of small skirmishes and very rarely some team fights.

james121234Nov 25, 20161 votes

Because a silver 3 jungle main is head of design. Smites were too hard for him to remember.

Brain Errör 404Nov 25, 20162 votes

So... because he's silver 3 you think you know more than he does? You think you have better game knowledge than he does?

If so, go ahead and apply. I'm sure they'd love someone who has much better input.

On a side note, there are a LOT and I mean a LOT of good games out there where they're designers and "balance" teams are pretty shitty at the game. I guess they should stop doing their jobs since they aren't top tier.

People these days, I swear.

james121234Nov 25, 20161 votes

Its not about being top tier its about being competent. Do you think the guy that ruined worlds with the juggernaut patch and that cant nerf the jungle when its been overpowered for a year now shows he is incompetent of doing their job. You sound like a kid using sentences like "you have better game knowledge then apply" yeah too bad the world doesnt work like that or people like myself and top players would already have done so.

Its not about his rank its an added factor to him constantly making the game crap. Guys made some of the worst changes to league nobody can argue with that (well people who actually know what he did and does) He clearly has no idea how to work anything. Im not even super amazing like master tier but I can legit screw around and destroy people in plat/gold/silver. If the lead of design cant get a positive win rate in low silver when he is the designer theres a big problem.

Brain Errör 404Nov 25, 20162 votes

Yet your entire argument revolves around him being silver. Okay.

RequiemsfireNov 25, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure that they work in teams,shifting the blame for your distaste solely on the designer being silver is childish.