When you call someone out for cheating; why do people always assume your lying?

BlackEyesBlue··2 votes·1,261 views

I have had a real problem with this lately. In my hundreds of games, I have only accused a handful of opponents who were being very blatant about it!

IE:

  • A Quinn top lane who gained a large burst of health twice during the early game who DID NOT have heal.
  • A Jinx who was the most obvious scripter I'd ever seen! Even attacking a stealthed Shaco with Auto attacks several times with no Vision wards in sight. (Also no, the enemy team didn't haveRekSai . )
  • And Just last night, a mid lane MissFortune who had impossibly high damage!

I was playing as Chogath with full tank Masteries, and Full Armour / MR runes, At Level 3 Her auto attacks were dealing 320 damage, what's more by lvl 7 she had build full AD, rushing item 3153 and item 1038; and her E dealt more then 40% damage to me!

I looked at her build and Match history after the game, Her runes were standard ADC and 10 out of her last 12 matches had her dying 12+ times with 4 kills tops.

When I tried to tell my team mates during and after the game, all I got was " OMG Shut up noob cho!", or "Cry some more you feeder!", "Your just getting rekt! Shut up!", ect...

It doesn't happen a lot, but people do hack and script in this game. The part I don't understand is why so many people just instantly assume your lying if you bring it up? I've only had 2 people on my own teams ever accuse an opponent of hacks / scripting, so it doesn't seem like the sort of thing that happens to often. Is this some community taboo I'm not familiar with? Or do people just truly believe it never happens?

31 Comments

TeemoJenkins6 votes

OP you're missing the point - you are saying people cheat so you lose games... everyone else is saying the probability of those people actually cheating is infinitesimal and there's very plausible reasons for what occurred.

Fact of the matter is - you don't have log files to prove cheating and calling someone a cheater without actual proof is just mud slinging.

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

For one, you are right, I CAN'T prove it. The original point of this post was how hard people want do deny that it happens at all. Second, we actually won the Quinn and Jinx games, but it was still incredibly greasy.

And I'm seeing the same response from EVERYONE posting here, stating things so obvious I didn't think they needed mentioning! Like The burst healing Quinn got happening in a game with NO healing champs!

And Snowball4u2 down there mixing statements from two separate games. So ya know what I don't care. If it ever happens to you, maybe in a ranked game, I hope ya can all laugh it off the way you are now!

IllllllIIIIlllll3 votes

because this is a big game that's calculated server side. aside from scripting, any cheating done is not due to an exploit but most likely due to a game glitch

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

That's one incredibly convenient glitch, allowing a level 3 champ to do over 300 damage with auto attacks.

Trídent2 votes

Stop exaggerating >.<

Give us the facts.

You said MF shredded 40% of your health with ONE aa.

It's perfectly reasonable to do that with ~2-3 aas, due to BoRK

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

Fact: AA did 320 at lvl 3 against tank build cho with only a item 1055

Fact: "Make it Rain" at rank 2 deals 145 + 80% of ability power, at this time, her only equipment was item 3153 item 1038, which do not build AP, One rank two "Make it Rain" dealt nearly 360 damage to me at lvl 7 with a item 3111 in my inventory.

Not that you really care. You may continue to flame now.

Trídent3 votes

Because they aren't hackers

usually

Quinn ---- Raka? Heals from fog? Lag? LIFESTEAL

Jinx - ZAP? Q AOE?

MissFortune - Reasonable. (smurf also)

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

I DID say I've only seen it a couple of times in hundreds of games! I know it doesn't happen a lot, but if the mass scripting bans are any indication, It still happens sometimes.

Trídent2 votes

not in the way you've said....

None of those instances could've been scripting.

LongHair Fox1 votes

Thing is there are a lot of people (especially in lower brackets) that accuse other players of cheating or hacking or whatever. Most of the time it is due to some in game mechanic or something the accuser did not see. A good example is a friend of mine that dc's or lags about every other game and balmes it on drophacking or whatever even if it is on normal games.

In the mf case she could have aa+q making it seem you got 320 damage total by just an aa and jinx could have been ignite, her w, or a number of other reasons. Not sure about the quinn heals but your own computer handles nothing so unless the player has somehow planted a program in the server heals like that cannot be a result of cheating.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Jinx - Zap!

Trídent2 votes

! you shot me!

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Jinx's Zap reveals stealthed units. Didn't even need help seeing Shaco.

Snowball4u1 votes

It is probably like 0.0001% chance to get a scripter in your game... Probably even lower because you just play normals.

The burst of heals can be from a champ with a heal that is not in vision...

The jinx could just be good... Or a smurf

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

He thinks Rek'sai's Tremor Sense can give vision of a stealthed champion so that Jinx can auto attack Shaco, so I'm taking the whole post with a grain of salt.

BlackEyesBlue2 votes

RekSai DOES let allies see stealthed units IF they are moving and in range.

I was playing Mid Evelynn vs. Zed once with a Rek'sai enemy Jg. As long as Rek camped my lane, zed could see me while stealthed!

aaronautumn5 votes

Eve is revealed when within a certain range of an enemy champion. Tremor sense only shows a circle where the enemy last was, it doesn't actually reveal them.

BlackEyesBlue2 votes

It was enough to let him land his q and w. And I'm a level 5 Evelynn, I know how her stealth works.

DrCyanide4 votes

Those are AoE abilities though. You specifically said that Jinx was Auto Attacking Shaco.

Snowball4u3 votes

Lol idk anymore i think im just gona ignore this post now because he doesnt know jinx w gives vision xD

Snowball4u1 votes

wait what the hell... Land w on zed land w??? LAND W?!?!?!?!?! Im done bye guys

Trídent3 votes

sure

Trídent4 votes

no she doesn't. It just shows circles where they are.

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

No, it doesn't. You can see where they are, but you can't see them. You can't auto attack a unit you can't see regardless of whether you know where they actually are or not. Rek'sai only shows an indicator and not the champion. Like the other guys said, Evelynn is revealed by being close to the enemy. There is no way a Zed could attack her with a target ability and not see Eve, because he'd already be close enough to reveal her (assuming there is line-of-sight).

Shaco on the other hand is invisible whether you're close or not. Rek'sai will reveal his position but not give true sight of him, which means you can lob skillshots at him but not auto attacks. What probably happened is Jinx hit him with her Zap, which does reveal champions.

DrCyanide1 votes

{quoted}

The burst of heals can be from a champ with a heal that is not in vision...

Or across the map - Soraka

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

The Quinn was level 3 - 4 when the heals happened and they had no Soraka

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

Good enough to target an un-targetable unit with auto attacks?...

Vulkrom2 votes

Now that you said Q and w..... >.<

Q is AOE, Jinx can damage shaco by hitting someone nearby him. W reveals people, if w hit shaco, shaco would've become unstealthed afaik

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

... That was two separate games....

honestly, are you just picking out the parts you want to read?

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Zap reveals stealthed units.

Hence, Jinx would have been able to see the Shaco even through his stealth if she hit it.

3TWarrior1 votes

after looking it over, i'm not sure but the quinn top could have had the Mastery: Culinary Master

if they had potions (which would be a semi-unnoticeable item, especially if they used them all, that gives a 100 health jump in an instant at the cost of 175 gold

as for the jinx, if she didn't land her W/E, then she could have been in range of the tower's true sight

miss fortune...idk about this one but actually, damage taken and given is shown as stacking now, so she could have hit you with her auto, Q, auto for a total of about 300 and she could have had critical chance runes

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