Veigar's PBE Q is now faster than Ezreal's

I can see it now.

"We gave up on trying to fix Veigar in any meaningful way, so we're just going to overload him with numbers until we have to gut him again!" - Riot.

This could actually make him fun tbh.

notice i said FUN not VIABLE

What did we honestly expect?

It won't be the first time they number buff something into viability while completely ignoring the problem.

At this point I would settle for a Viktor W.

I'd imagine its simply to make it more reliable for last hitting (having a faster projectile definitely helps with that)

Really hoping his W gets its delay decreased so he isn't so reliant on landing his E (especially after its nerfs and subsequent buffs) to do great damage.

Idk, maybe if they were polite enough to revert the changes, but this would require them to admit they were wrong.

range still sucks.

Note that "Throw numbers at a shitty rework that removes literally everything about a champion that isn't numbers until people stop calling us out on how shitty said rework is" is, of course, excellent game design and wonderful for game health, rather than the desperate flailing of terrible designers.

I don't want to be that guy, but I'm actually excited to try him with the new pbe changes. I like what they've done to his kit overall, now that E has a lot more reasonable delay. Definitely down for a shorter W delay though, even if it means a little less damage. W has always annoyed me

What about range? Still the same? If yes, then it's still not viable in teamfight (unless you build tank veigar to catch someone in his Q range)

I've been waiting for this

I feel like if you're going to change the E speed a much more interesting way to do it would be to have the E accelerate on hitting the first enemy, or even just become an instant lazer like Xerath's Q, still single target for the second hit of course.

Not sure if it would be better from a balance sense but it certainly seems like a cool idea.

Don't really see a problem with this. He's a burst mage while Ez is an adc. His spells should be more potent than Ez's

just give his W 2-3 charges and lower dmg a little bit. now he benefits from trapping people in cage

by increasing its speed, it makes it more of a reliable harass from what I guess. I actually wanted just a tad of range on top of a little speed, but that is because I have a tendency to aim it a little short. Anyone got a video of its speed in comparison to the current speed or just speed ratios in general? I have been trying to figure that out but cannot seem to find a solid speed related video.

pew pew