Could Get Tahm get his Old Decaying E-Shield back

Swain On CoKayn··16 votes·811 views

I dont want to make a big dicussion about it. I just want to know why it was even reworked this way. He was not super strong at release, then got buffed, then was to strong and now even in the Preseason he could be stronger. But not much stronger. I just think that this extremly long holding, but further weakend shield was better then what he has now. TahmKench

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Succubús GF6 votes

Can we not buff tahm ty~

SweedishGunner1 votes

Yeah it feels like he crowds out a lot of the competition whenever he's close to being strong.

Baron Barian4 votes

I don't want them to do anything to bench the Kench. :(

JPLangley5 votes

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Durzaka3 votes

He currently has a 51% win rate right now.

There are TEN supports with higher win rates than him.

He isnt too strong right now.

Pierce The Veal2 votes

"51% winrate"

"Isn't strong."

I think I read these both in the same post. I'm doubting myself.

He's not average or weak if that's what you're trying to imply, but he's in a state where he shouldn't be buffed or nerfed.

Durzaka1 votes

There are 10 more supports with a higher win rate than him right now.

If 51% win rate puts him at 11th, there are CLEARLY bigger problems.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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There are 10 more supports with a higher win rate than him right now.

If 51% win rate puts him at 11th, there are CLEARLY bigger problems.

Yes, but him being at 51% winrate and 11th highest support winrate doesn't mean that he should he buffed. He shouldn't be buffed, but his statistics are high enough that he definitely is not in need of buffs.

In fact if they nerf those higher winrate supports it's entirely possible his winrate might go up again. So for the time being he should not receive buffs or nerfs. The higher winrate supports should be looked at instead.

Durzaka1 votes

I never said he should be buffed. Im replying to someone who said that his strength and ability to carry is already too high, which is strictly false.

Dani El Pezglobo1 votes

Tamh kench isnt the kind of champ that should have positive winrate on this meta, his base damage are a bit 2 high, but yeah other champs like Janna are more problematic than kemchy

Dope Solo3 votes

If you devour an enemy champ and spit them back out at another enemy - it should do damage. Currently it doesn't.

Swain On CoKayn1 votes

Do you mean spash Damage like when you eat a Minion or just damage to the devoured target. The first would be normal the second would be a bug then.

Plastic 5 ADC1 votes

It never did?

Kubox1 votes

I don't know, seems kinda like punishing players for doing the right play.

If Tahm eats your ally, you usually want to either pile on him if possible or at the very least, stick to him so that you don't leave your pal alone once he's out. Making it so Tahm can just spit your ally out for massive damage on both of you kinda makes it so abandoning your ally is the only option if you're melee.

Dope Solo2 votes

I get what you're saying there. I would say the spit range for an enemy champ is already next to 0 units. At least some damage would be appropriate, or the slow/passive proc should be there. I'd add to this, Tahm makes playing sup pretty fun. Anyone tried top?

Kubox3 votes

Oh he is by far one of my favorite supports to play late-game. Him and Sona are the only traditional supports that make me feel like an actual champion at that time of the game.

I just wish his lane phase was slightly less "wait for enemy to go potato" than it currently is.

Honestly, I don't know if it'd be a good idea to make him spitting out enemies do anything more than it does now (aka, nothing). I can already see a couple team-oriented issues that would follow :

  • Tahm spits enemy 1 into enemy 2, team proceeds to throw skillshots or simply have issues right-clicking enemy 1 that is embedded in the second one.
  • Tahm spits enemy 1 into enemy 2 that is following him, team proceeds to fail skillshots as they were expecting him to spit the champion between them and Tahm.

He doesn't exactly need buffs either. But if I were to change him I'd look at his shield. I personally preferred the longer, decaying shield as it was less of a "oh shit" button (3 seconds ain't always enough to save you either). Current one feels more like a "activate and run" toll than a "second health bar more engaged"one.

LordGeovanni1 votes

That really is only a learning curve though. also most likely champions wouldnt overlap anyone they would hit each others model and bump the one behind back for a maybe .3 second mini stun. I feel that Tahm could use some love after the garbage they did to him with putting the passive damage from his ult onto his passive which not is less over all damage even when stacked but is also less damage because it has to stack.

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

As a dedicated Tahm player I can and will always say that Tahm was super strong right out the gate on release.

LordGeovanni1 votes

I prefer them giving his extra damage equal to a % of his max hp back on his ultimate instead of the gimped value on his passive that needs to be stacked up with his passive when he has a low attack speed and consumes it nearly immediately after he gets 3rd stack and has to stack it up again. Absolutely no one complained about his pre6 and his ult has such a small range initially long cast time all the time and is disrupted by damage. There is a reason you dont want to even level it up compared to basic abilites.

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