Can we admit that Zac remake was terrible?

Inkult·8/3/2017, 11:20:04 PM·7 votes·587 views

Hi Riot. Zac was fine. New Zac was a nice try, after three nerfs he is weak and hardly worth it.

Can't we just say, "we tried, we gonna bring him back"

1-Ultimate is still underwhelming. 2- Q is now 8%health and weaker for clears. 3- W is not doing damage. 4- E has been nerfed enough

For the ones saying his new ultimate is better, it is not.

Look at this tank Meta. Take a look at Maokai, Galio and Amumu for example. Zac is way weaker than any of those.

OLD ZAC:

Q AoE slow

E landed consistently. Knock Up.

W Decent AoE dmg

R Great disrupting Ultimate potencially knocking 5 people. Escape tool.

New Zac

Q is not worth all the nerfs. 80% of the time, you wont be landing the second one.

W makes less dmg like way less

E Nerf after nerf

Ultimate: While in theory sounds good, is still way underwhelming compared to Galio, Maokai, Amumu etc Ultimates.

Zac is not a real tank, not at all. Not anymore at least. Maybe if you have passive up he is decent, but your attempt to make him a tank failed.

Really, Maokai has self heal, Zac looses health.

Maokai E makes more dmg than a w, ranged and warding bushes.

Maokai q, has Knockup for potencially 3 or more targets with slow, Zac is click cluncky crap for a less usefull effect.

Maokai w- Way more reliable than a Zac E, better cooldown etc.

Galio and Amumu, well, they are self explanatory. Both of their ultimates are better, Amumu is a walking atomic bomb in dmg, and Galio has decent ratios and a def boost.

Really Zac is a bruiser, bring him back, he was great and way more fun. At least prior the rework you could escape, now is either a full in, or you die.

9 Comments

Slayerics8/3/2017, 11:21:12 PM4 votes

I wish they would stop reworking so much, especially stuff that doesn't need reworking, just nerfs.

MrHaZeYo8/3/2017, 11:21:21 PM3 votes

His ult is one of the strongest Tank abilities in the game lol.

waiting for WoW8/3/2017, 11:24:18 PM1 votes

His ult is too strong and useful so his base abilities are going to be really undertuned to compensate for it.

There is no way to give him decent base abilities without taking something drastic off his ultimate.

Nahui8/4/2017, 2:06:11 AM1 votes

His Q is better for aoe camps. W got nerfed because he'd shred with it. E is still and always will be the single greatest ganking tool in the game until jungle Kassadin becomes viable when E loses its charge system. His ult is now much better than his old ult. Old ult caused disarray in a fight. His new ult requires you to flash or your in the middle of their team and dead. The fact that he can't be cc'd either makes it so good plus a viable escape tool if needed, which old couldn't do.