Why does Ekko, a mobile high damage assassin, has one of the highest base health regen?

TyroneWatermelon·Sep 2, 2017·9 votes·792 views

Health Regen: 9 at (lv 1) - 24.3 (lv 18) ranking at the 7th highest base hp/5 at level 1, and 5th at level 18. Ekko has already more than decent laning phase, being able to easily engage ranged champions, dodge stuff, potentially mitigate some and waveclear. his weaknesses are being weak when his spells are on cooldown, being poked, but these are mostly mitigated by using his mentioned above strenghts. abnormally high health regen seems to not be in line with his being poked weakness

15 Comments

Kowe The EwokSep 2, 20177 votes

Survivability is his trademark, as indicated by his shield and ultimate, which are both easily avoidable for opponents. He isn't a 100 - 0 burst assassin as others are, which is a HUGE flaw, but gains survivability in return.

Somebody Love MeSep 2, 20171 votes

But he can 100-0 pretty decently, while doing so with more safety than most assassins

TotalJerkSep 2, 20176 votes

Because he'd easily get repeatedly poked out of lane in certain matchups if he didn't have it. He can't do dick about it if a ranged champion decides to auto him every single time he goes to last-hit.

Mens Hair ClubSep 2, 20171 votes

he can't do dick except set up his W or EQ onto them for a trade

ekko has far more options than most melees against a ranged opponent

TotalJerkSep 2, 20171 votes

That's one trade. Meanwhile the opponent will be constantly autoing you for free with no cooldowns. On top of that it's extremely telegraphed when Ekko is trying to go for a trade, so you can often just back off until his W gets wasted during the laning phase.

TyroneWatermelonSep 2, 20172 votes

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Because he'd easily get repeatedly poked out of lane in certain matchups if he didn't have it. He can't do dick about it if a ranged champion decides to auto him every single time he goes to last-hit.

I wonder why Zed, Talon, Katarina and Fizz have normal health regen. both are melee and supposed to be poked when against mages. this is why they have high mobility and poke themselves. Ekko should not be an exception.

TotalJerkSep 2, 20171 votes

Zed is resourceless and his passive makes him capable of being far less predictable with last-hitting. He can farm with spells forever with no trouble. Katarina is also resourceless and has high uptime on her instant blink. Talon and Fizz both are known for having shitty laning phases.

paisySep 2, 20171 votes

I know right? He basically has a free warmogs

DragonSheaSep 2, 20171 votes

Nerf it. Only tanky melees need to have high HP regen. Gnar is the worse offender at 34.3 at Iv 18 while Darius is reasonable to an extend at 26.

TyroneWatermelonSep 2, 20171 votes

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Nerf it. Only tanky melees need to have high HP regen. Gnar is the worse offender at 34.3 at Iv 18 while Darius is reasonable to an extend at 26.

its only Mega Gnar

DragonSheaSep 2, 20171 votes

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its only Mega Gnar

Nope, Both Gnar forms have the same HP regen.

And A Real HieroSep 2, 20171 votes

Because Shen OP.

Elkington VISep 2, 20171 votes

I remember when Riven used to have this issue. I guess we've gone full circle with another flashy/outplay champ.

TotalJerkSep 2, 20171 votes

Riven is designed to be a top laner. High HP regen is OP up there because HP sustain matters more. Also, Riven can instantly engage whenever she wants while Ekko has to telegraph his intentions. Thirdly Riven doesn't have to use mana.

Elkington VISep 2, 20171 votes

Well, if it isn't an issue then hopefully it doesn't get nerfed. Only time will tell.

At least he isn't an immobile melee and he DOES have a gap closer, as well as a MS boost. Personally, I don't think high HP regen is even necessary for champs with gap closers and burst, but that's just my opinion.