Pantheon shouldn't get a free pass with dragon

KingRadishMan·11/28/2014, 3:44:46 PM·36 votes·4,661 views

Dragon damage needs to be changed so that it deals the same amount of damage consistently over time.

I think it's ridiculous that pantheon can kill dragon at level 3 without taking any damage. he is practically one of the only champs that can do this.

I don't really have any issue 100% with pantheons passive blocking some damage from dragon if the damage is more spread out ie:(same damage more attacks over time) Then pantheons passive would not be so overwhelmingly effective. He shouldn't get a free pass over other champs just because his passive was overlooked in the design.

73 Comments

Colgate Gator11/28/2014, 4:15:45 PM21 votes

We had a Pantheon who tried to pull that shit last game, we warded it up and ambushed his ass :I

Khristophoros11/28/2014, 4:01:14 PM13 votes

Because it's difficult to ward dragon.

Rebonack11/28/2014, 4:18:54 PM13 votes

It isn't as if it takes him about a minute or so to kill the thing. Champions killing dragon at level 2/3 isn't exactly anything new in League.

BeatzBoyFTW11/28/2014, 4:12:32 PM11 votes

As if he can kill dragon in about 10 seconds at level 3.

coppinslinger11/28/2014, 8:59:30 PM10 votes

I think in pantheon's case in particular, its kinda stupid because it doesn't require the same amount of mechanics that it takes for MonkeyKing or Fiora for example. But the fact that he can do this is really the only thing that's keeping him viable in the new jungle, so eh I'll take it.

California Ice11/28/2014, 9:46:01 PM8 votes

One time, we waited for pantheon to kill the dragon at 1000 health at level 3 thanks to my trinket/ward. When it hit 700, we killed him and got a dragon. Pantheon then said "hacker" and afk'd.

Godflee11/28/2014, 4:29:12 PM5 votes

Heimerdinger level 1 just run back and forth let it agro u and ur turrents as u move win....

Long Dong Wukong11/28/2014, 6:36:26 PM4 votes

A lot of characters can level 3 dragon, it's just harder than Pantheon. I know Nunu, Wukong, and Fiora can do it

Mahnigguh11/28/2014, 4:16:08 PM3 votes

agreed, its nto a quick process, if panth is missing, go to drag and fin him off, easy kill gg

BeetleBoy11/29/2014, 5:05:31 PM3 votes

Don't complain that Pantheon gets a free dragon, counter it. Place a ward in dragon pit early. When Pantheon solo's dragon, he's left with low health, sometimes he barely gets it. Just wait for him to get 3/4s of the way done, go in, kill his ass, and take dragon for yourself.

Pantheon doesn't get free dragons when I play, he gives ME free dragons.

Knight Devout11/29/2014, 3:37:31 PM2 votes

Just make his passive unable to block attacks from epic monsters, and it's done.

Seriously, the "ward argument"is bogus, not all botlaners are braindead assholes who won't help Pantheon by also warding dragon to know if it's warded, OR just follow up when botlane goes missing. And what do you do if Pantheon goes dragon while your jungler is ganking top? You ask your jungler to pick tp over flash? You ask your top laners to pick tp and hope the enemy doesn't do the same?

You basically revolve all your early game strategy around the fact that Pantheon can take dragon solo ?

Feathermane11/29/2014, 12:15:41 AM1 votes

Then I ask for equal opportunity Barons as well. It's nonsense that only aa-based champions can damage him. As a support, you're just standing around looking silly while the 'big boys' like WW or Jax take him down in seconds, unassisted if necessary.

Durzaka11/29/2014, 6:15:02 AM1 votes

Enemy has a pantheon jungle? Tell your mid lane to roam to dragon pit around 3:20, and rip pantheons face off for a free first blood.

That shit takes him so long to kill, it should only ever happen to you once before you know how to stop it.