ekko balance way off

AyoLiko420··1 votes·786 views

I had to go vs a zed in lane with these runes and I just want to ask which champs u used as a platform to base the runes around and test them on.. because sorcery seems strictly for mages and straight ap champs while domination seems for ad.. and so on.. however I main ekko and no set of runes really showcase his kit.. I had sorcery and resistance runes and a zed was 3 shotting me by lvl 4 honestly.. I'm mastery 7 and if u really care (doubt it) u should go look at my games.. this was awful.. as someone who knows the ins and out of ekko he's my main.. I was perplexed by the sheer damage this zed did to me.. and the lack of damage I do to him.. if I'm an assassin fighter my damage should be higher than his.. based off of how u guys design the game.. its not.. nor speed or armor.. only health I believe and that's slight.. the old rune system was there so u could dim some of the weaknesses of ur champ and even then its hard because if I don't use my w q e and r in a fight.. to get my passive out.. I die.. ekko.. has for me become a dive or bust champ and that's gross.. I have to set up my w.. dive on and hit with e.. use my q.. by this time.. my w stun is over.. y is it so short.. how really am I supposed to proc my passive if by the time I try and get the third hit in they're runnin away.. his slow on q is low as well but anyway my q hits and since it doesn't go past once it makes contact they can just outrun it and not give me my third hit.. so I waste my flash and flash ahead of them for the q to hit on return but depending where they are.. usually by tower that's dangerous.. and tower starts killing me and so my great play is outplayed by a turret.. I dove though so I want this kill meaning I'm burning my ignite too while my passive kicked in and I'm under turret so I have to stop engage and use it to get away.. well that sounds good but if I'm against a fizz he survives uses e and then w to kill me bcuz tower did half his job.. or lux shoots a stun then e and basic.. dead. I could give plenty of different examples of the bs Ahri Annie Morgana Lux Veigar TwistedFate but I'm just asking if u could pls take a look at ekko and remove some of his limits.. his 1.75 second stun.. really.. I see veigar in lane and his stun at minimum is 2 seconds moth 2 seconds yaks has a wall that cancels my q.. understand how shorthanded u left him against so many champs.. omg ADCs.. if indont stun the ADC and support.. I die or have to ult out.. now I could just build armor and health but like I said u removed so much damage frm his kit if I want a real trade in lane I have to hit e after I connect a q or I just get basic attack dmged and kilt.. his passive procs on those but if its a champ like Yasuo his wind wall stops my q frm returning so cancel or just stun and end me.. dive or bust.. no kiting with q anymore.. they move out the way on the return.. its gross to watch.. Akali Fizz Talon Yasuo Zed Katarina can get on u and stay on.. ekko gets on and then falls off.. imagin being out ran after landing a e and q.. wat is the point of the slow.. my w obvious if they engaged me and I didnt get to cast it first they just move around and away because my q slow is awful and e has no on hit effect like it should.. I just want some answers on y u lowball how good this champ could really be.. and I always build lich bane for ms.. to be outran by an ADC or jg.. sick.. y make him so slow.. I get chased down by tanks.. like how tf.. riot its been a while but this is seriously a problem.. yaks autos kill me more than abilities.. imagine that.. and I make plays

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Zero Drive1 votes

You are very mistaken on how Ekko works, what runes work best for him, and the itemization path you should be taking for certain match ups. You're Bronze 4 so it is safe to say you cannot reliably dodge Zed's W+E+Q combo. If you're not dodging his skills you must invest in armor. I see you had item 3100 item 3152 item 3020 when you should have had item 1056 item 3047 item 3157 item 3146 (personal pref for dueling someone who can outburst me).

I advice you go over to Ekko Mains Reddit, join in some convos and watch some Ekko main streamers (Saint Kilian is good though post infrequently).

AyoLiko4201 votes

first off I'm s4 and honestly if u ask my teammates in games I'm a great ekko player.. I make plays all game.. ill go 8-1 and lose because teammates so don't judge my skill bcuz I'm bronze rn.. I build lich bane and hex belt and sorcerer shoes for the dmg if not he does none.. zhonyas is a bad item idc wat anyone says any item that leaves u vulnerable is not good.. especially when there are always aoe champs when someone runs ekko.. or anyone.. I cant rush gunblade bcuz he doesn't survive long enough in fights for the 33 percent lifesteal to matter.. hes not like akali or kat and honestly.. I'm so good in teamfights they don't target the tank.. they target me and my team falls to shits.. like I said maybe u cant see my in game but watevr.. sometimes I make risky moves but like I said to proc his passive that's what u have to do.. and I f u think u don't have to use his entire kit.. u must not play ekko.. in season 7 where his ap is low af and his armor was too.. inbetween every champ havin a grab, knockup, stun, snare, root watevr.. those 2.5 seconds I cant cast will cost me my lfe.. I could rush banshees but then my early game dmg has to be lower than whoever I lane with all game.. ive seen ekko gameplays from kilean, to faker and more but honestly I play him better.. riot jus keeps lowballing him and if u don't see it then pls stop responding.. I should be fed.. and die fto a morg stun w and ult.. because I jus finished eating an adc and I'm trying to get out ith 40 percent health.. like I said its dive or burst or have a crappy build that's not really for him.. hes supposed to use items that kat and akali and use but his kit doesn't work like theres.. as stated in original post.. ty for the insight though it is appreciated though it is wrong

Talinis1 votes

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ive seen ekko gameplays from kilean, to faker and more but honestly I play him better..

Ok there s4 buddy, settle down now lol.

Ekko should by far have the least damage in his kit compared to fizz, zed, talon, akali, katarina. Why???????? Because he has a long AOE stun (albeit delayed but doesn't matter, none of the others do), a shield and an ultimate that is a 100% get out of free jail card or if used for damage does some of the most obscene aoe damage as well as healing him. He has empowered autos to finish up low hp targets AND he has a ranged slow on a basic ability, which also can help clear waves. He not only has a double blink ability but a massive run speed boost in his kit. He has many play patterns and a plethora of kiting tools while he waits for CDS.

He is a skirmisher assassin. He should not be able to go in and just instantly 100% - zero like a fizz, who has about half the tools that ekko is given and most which he has are attached to his high counterplay ult outside of his E dodge which is basically a glorified blink in many circumstances. What about kat who is basically just mobility and damage who hunts for resets with a way to set up her damage with a ranged basic ability. That is basically her entire kit. When comparing the tools each assassin is given, the other assassins have less, some far less, and therefore should have much higher damage or mobility to compensate. None of the assassins you listed is given an AOE stun + shield on a basic. None of them have run speed boosts outside of items or runes. If you want to get more damage, then you need to give up some tools, particularly the stun (as it would be insanely unhealthy to do fizz level of damage inside of the stun duration) In the meantime, you should play ekko how he is built to be played, a skirmisher.

AyoLiko4201 votes

his auto isn't ampowered if u land both stages of ability which ive covered or if u wait around to do an auto.. a;so explained.. his ult is fine and he has one blink ability.. hes slow so y crant him a slow he cant effectivel ycach unles he uses an e then I need to q and auto for damage so wats next kat his a jumping blade she can ounce to and stationsy.. mobile af.. fizzes over the moon e and dive w the omg range.. be real since they mixed his damage racios to facilitate basics thry should make it lee punishing goin for them.. all I'm sayin.. cant skirmish when a stun and two autos with a non skillshot can kill u

Sohleks1 votes

Everyone dies really fast now that's just the meta. The resolve runes while perhaps slightly underrated (only slightly, they are definitely weaker than old defense runes) will not fix that. Personally I'm finding it a breath of fresh air that feels like old league back when people knew less how to play. Now mistakes are more punishing.

Your assumption that Dom is only for AD and Sorc is only for AP is wrong though.

Dom should be great for any mid laner as it has the new thunderlords while long cd is more impactful in this more lethal meta. It has vision based runes which is very relevant for mid laners and helps the tree appeal to support and also has great snowballing runes granting some spellvamp to mages or out of combat mobility which I think is massively underrated.

Sorc can work on Pantheon for example who can click stun people to drop an arcane comet on them and get free mana for his harass. It has 4% ms option which is solid and cdr and dmg or scaling runes. Aery is pretty good at lane harass atm. Does favor ranged chars for sure tho.

Though yeah manaflow band is probably so strong mages will definitely lean blue.

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