ekko balance way off

AyoLiko420·11/11/2017, 11:28:33 AM·1 votes·786 views

I had to go vs a zed in lane with these runes and I just want to ask which champs u used as a platform to base the runes around and test them on.. because sorcery seems strictly for mages and straight ap champs while domination seems for ad.. and so on.. however I main ekko and no set of runes really showcase his kit.. I had sorcery and resistance runes and a zed was 3 shotting me by lvl 4 honestly.. I'm mastery 7 and if u really care (doubt it) u should go look at my games.. this was awful.. as someone who knows the ins and out of ekko he's my main.. I was perplexed by the sheer damage this zed did to me.. and the lack of damage I do to him.. if I'm an assassin fighter my damage should be higher than his.. based off of how u guys design the game.. its not.. nor speed or armor.. only health I believe and that's slight.. the old rune system was there so u could dim some of the weaknesses of ur champ and even then its hard because if I don't use my w q e and r in a fight.. to get my passive out.. I die.. ekko.. has for me become a dive or bust champ and that's gross.. I have to set up my w.. dive on and hit with e.. use my q.. by this time.. my w stun is over.. y is it so short.. how really am I supposed to proc my passive if by the time I try and get the third hit in they're runnin away.. his slow on q is low as well but anyway my q hits and since it doesn't go past once it makes contact they can just outrun it and not give me my third hit.. so I waste my flash and flash ahead of them for the q to hit on return but depending where they are.. usually by tower that's dangerous.. and tower starts killing me and so my great play is outplayed by a turret.. I dove though so I want this kill meaning I'm burning my ignite too while my passive kicked in and I'm under turret so I have to stop engage and use it to get away.. well that sounds good but if I'm against a fizz he survives uses e and then w to kill me bcuz tower did half his job.. or lux shoots a stun then e and basic.. dead. I could give plenty of different examples of the bs Ahri Annie Morgana Lux Veigar TwistedFate but I'm just asking if u could pls take a look at ekko and remove some of his limits.. his 1.75 second stun.. really.. I see veigar in lane and his stun at minimum is 2 seconds moth 2 seconds yaks has a wall that cancels my q.. understand how shorthanded u left him against so many champs.. omg ADCs.. if indont stun the ADC and support.. I die or have to ult out.. now I could just build armor and health but like I said u removed so much damage frm his kit if I want a real trade in lane I have to hit e after I connect a q or I just get basic attack dmged and kilt.. his passive procs on those but if its a champ like Yasuo his wind wall stops my q frm returning so cancel or just stun and end me.. dive or bust.. no kiting with q anymore.. they move out the way on the return.. its gross to watch.. Akali Fizz Talon Yasuo Zed Katarina can get on u and stay on.. ekko gets on and then falls off.. imagin being out ran after landing a e and q.. wat is the point of the slow.. my w obvious if they engaged me and I didnt get to cast it first they just move around and away because my q slow is awful and e has no on hit effect like it should.. I just want some answers on y u lowball how good this champ could really be.. and I always build lich bane for ms.. to be outran by an ADC or jg.. sick.. y make him so slow.. I get chased down by tanks.. like how tf.. riot its been a while but this is seriously a problem.. yaks autos kill me more than abilities.. imagine that.. and I make plays

5 Comments

Zero Drive11/11/2017, 1:06:51 PM1 votes

You are very mistaken on how Ekko works, what runes work best for him, and the itemization path you should be taking for certain match ups. You're Bronze 4 so it is safe to say you cannot reliably dodge Zed's W+E+Q combo. If you're not dodging his skills you must invest in armor. I see you had item 3100 item 3152 item 3020 when you should have had item 1056 item 3047 item 3157 item 3146 (personal pref for dueling someone who can outburst me).

I advice you go over to Ekko Mains Reddit, join in some convos and watch some Ekko main streamers (Saint Kilian is good though post infrequently).

Sohleks11/12/2017, 3:02:43 AM1 votes

Everyone dies really fast now that's just the meta. The resolve runes while perhaps slightly underrated (only slightly, they are definitely weaker than old defense runes) will not fix that. Personally I'm finding it a breath of fresh air that feels like old league back when people knew less how to play. Now mistakes are more punishing.

Your assumption that Dom is only for AD and Sorc is only for AP is wrong though.

Dom should be great for any mid laner as it has the new thunderlords while long cd is more impactful in this more lethal meta. It has vision based runes which is very relevant for mid laners and helps the tree appeal to support and also has great snowballing runes granting some spellvamp to mages or out of combat mobility which I think is massively underrated.

Sorc can work on Pantheon for example who can click stun people to drop an arcane comet on them and get free mana for his harass. It has 4% ms option which is solid and cdr and dmg or scaling runes. Aery is pretty good at lane harass atm. Does favor ranged chars for sure tho.

Though yeah manaflow band is probably so strong mages will definitely lean blue.