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Grievous Wound is the most anti-fun mechanic this game has!

Leaf on Bush·9/9/2017, 12:47:36 PM·2 votes·457 views

When your ADC (or Assassin) doesn't buy item 3123 early enough against champions with heavy heal or selfheal it ruins your game.

When your enemies buy item 3123 and 1 or 2 champion on your team rely on heavy heal or selfheal it ruins the game.

Why is this ok? It's cheap, it's mandatory, has no counterplay and guts champions in half to the point that just picking the champion wasn't worth (that is when a smart player actually abuses it).

The fact that a good amount of players doesn't realize how impactful cheap GW is (and hence keeps ruining games), doesn't justifiy its existence neither does it make the effect balanced or healthy for the game.

For the record item 3047 a rather cheap item (though not as cheap as item 3123 or item 3076) was nerfed from 12% reduction to 10% in patch 7.11 because so much reduction was apparently too powerful. How does this make sense? GW and its 40% reduction needs to be brought to a reasonable level or just bring heals to a reasonable level so we don't need GW to begin with. Stop this fake balance now!

19 Comments

OurLestrade9/9/2017, 12:55:35 PM2 votes

It's a messy solution to a messy mechanic. Lifesteal as a whole needs some work done on it, no idea what they could do though.

IjyiH9/12/2017, 12:53:25 AM1 votes

The point has already been made that GW counters sustain like %pen counters defense (armor/resist).

But there's two factors not yet mentioned:

  1. League is a fast-paced game a) If a teamfight lasts more than 10 seconds, you'd be better splitpushing or farming; hitting enemy champions without actually killing them wastes your time without giving you anything in return (XP / gold). b) Healing during teamfights makes the strategy component of the game irrelevant: when you engage or how you position doesn't matter because nobody will ever die.

  2. Counterplay against GW a) GW is only effective a small part of the time (during the fight). If your team focused in making the right calls and killed the enemy champions instead of swinging their weapons because they're bored, the healers could heal everyone after the fight, and if GW isn't present, then it's completely ineffective. b) % pen has a 100% uptime: it works every time you do damage, and defense also works every time you're taking damage. In that regard, % pen doesn't have counterplay... if you stack defense and they shred it, all your strategy becomes useless.

Calabok9/12/2017, 12:57:30 AM1 votes

we need GW or some champs just won't die.