Ad items > Ap items, how bout a new ap defensive item?

skocc·12/8/2017, 3:31:17 PM·3 votes·618 views

TL;DR at the bottom...

Anyone else feel like the variety of ad items is way above that of the ap ones, on top of that they are far more superior both in the stats they give and their cost.

Just look at the stats ad champs build and ap ones. Specific to Ap champs you just have ability power and magic penetration, wheres for ad ones you have attack damage, lethality, life steal, attack speed, critical strike and damage. Im not counting mana and cool down reduction cause that is a stat both benefit from. And on top of the variety of stats ad champs can build, most items incorporate most if not all of these stats into one with an additional special effect on top of their low price. Examples: item 3046 item 3087 item 3094 item 3085 , all of these items are super cheap and grant a lot of damage and utility with item 3046 granting a damage reduction passive which is very underrated. Then just compare item 3135 to item 3033 item 3036 , they have two % armor reduction items + with bonus effects where item 3135 just gives you the ap and on top of that its more expensive (granted not much 50g), but the proc from item 3033 is applied on all physical damage regardless of health while item 3165 applies on spells when every champs are below 50% hp, and when its comes to ad champs, most if not all of them are gonna have life steal, whiles ap champs there is only 3 you have to worry about healing and those are Swain Vladimir Akali , and they are easily countered by an early item 3123 where'es you don't have a similar ap item.

But my biggest problem with ad items over ap ones, the defensive/ bruiser items for ad champs. For Ad we have :item 3156 item 3139 item 3812 item 3053 item 3022 item 3046 item 3091 item 3814 item 3026 + item 3140 item 3155 for early game

Then we take a look at ap items to defend you, we have : item 3157 item 3001 item 3102 item 3027 item 3040item 3151 item 3116 and here only item 3157 is a ability power defensive item vs ad champs, and its used universally vs any damage type, and with the new runes and items a lot of ad champs are gonna have a stopwatch at some point, giving them too a Zhonya effect (even if its only one, it could mean a lot in a match).

So now, lets take an example : Zed Talon Yasuo Riven VS Akali Leblanc Ahri Katarina , all of them could be considered as assassins and all are hyper mobile , now look at all the items the ad champs could build to counter the ap ones : item 3156 item 3814 item 3139 item 3026 item 3053 to name some. While the ap champs can only build : item 3157 Because in a situation like this , ad champs and assassins have such a variety of items to successfully defend them from ap champs WITHOUT SACRIFICING THEIR DAMAGE! While should an ap champs build a item 3157 it will GREATLY decrease their damage output. And imagine now a Leblanc with a item 3157 , she will be able to survive a Zed ulty, big deal, she will be useless in teamfight, and whats stopping Zed from killing your carry - NOTHING (and im talking about items, not gameplay skill ,champs , supports tanks and the rest), and you may ask what is stopping Leblanc from killing their carry , here you go : item 3156 item 3139 item 3814 , all very successful items at countering ap assassins , and mages for that case.

And im not saying that any of these ap champs are underpowered of week, far from it, but i think ad champs are in a much better place in the game now, that is why you could see a full ad team and it will work great, cause all of the mentioned items give resistance , damage and LETHALITY, and with this being a damage focused meta, there is not much that can counter that, your carries and mages don't have ways to defend themselves while the enemy ad champs have all they want in a few items. That is why now, the most strongest ap champs are poke champs like Xerath Lux Zoe Velkoz cause they bring something that ad champs don't have - long range .

Anyway i think it would be nice if we could see at least 1 new ap item to balance out the contrast between ap and ad items.

TL;DR HOW BOUT A NEW AP DEFENSIVE ITEM AD defensive items vs magic damage :item 3156 item 3139 item 3155 item 3140 item 3814 not to mention item 3053 item 3026 item 3046 item 3812 item 3091 AP defensive items vs physical damage :item 3157 item 3191

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ChaddyFantome12/8/2017, 3:58:32 PM2 votes

A am sick and tired of repeating myself. Not every AD champ builds every AD item. AD otemisation isnt better. At best, it is just less boring.