I mean because this game got actually so hardly one sided and comebacks are nearly impossible, just bring out a surrender vote at min 10. If you want, that your game is so hardly onesided, okay, do it but then please put a possibility to surrender early, i dont wanna waste my time here. And please with 4 yes, not 5 like min 15
Malix Farwin25 voteswhy so people can go 0/7 by 10m and still say no to it lol.
l hate my team12 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ei3Et2ML,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-05T19:11:01.073+0000)
why so people can go 0/7 by 10m and still say no to it lol.
I know but there is still a possibility
Tokogawaruf17 votesThe Feeders : "Dont Worry Guys, we got Lategame!"
Us: "We also got no Towers left Mid and Bot...at minute 12"
The Feeders: The Surrender Vote was declined
NRNRB1 votesye. EVERYDAY i get situation where i get matched with 4 feeders who have no clue about game and they vote no. of course thats not to say im the best never feeding guy, but i was D2 and i barely give up and i can sense lost game from kilometer just by looking at things like turrets, how teamfights works, who can kill who cant (who is actually useful) etc.
Snowman Arc1 votesYou were D2? Dude, you are silver 2 with a 48% winrate.
KlydeFrog1 votesHe was elo boosted it seems
KlydeFrog1 votesI dunno why do people quit ? I was 0 and 7 came back and won no problem
Modl Ryden l20 votesLet's up the anti, FF@5 because my team cop is so shit I'm certain we're going to lose.
No wait, FF when the game starts. Then Ranked becomes a hot mess of a casino of entering champ select, doing pick/ban, over analyze the team comps, say "Their team comp wins, FF when we enter."
Then LoL will become the TRUE ESSENCE of competitive gaming.
Imagine the worlds championship finals with FF@0.
"Ahhh SKT T1 is doubting their team comp, as an analyst I gotta take sides with OMG's comp, they ultimately have enough CC to keep SKT's adc irrelvant. AND THERE'S THE SURRENDER VOTE! HOLY COW! What a game! These players certainly played their best when it came to champ select but on the rift, the game was an inevitable victory for OMG. Let's see if SKT can make it a 5 match game, that's something everyone is wanting to see."
5 mins of pick/ban into surrendering, and 55 mins of commercial break and post match commentary x4
"Congrats to your new world champion! [reader's favorite team] is your new world champion of League of Legends 20XX!"
Winner pro player #1: "Yeah when I saw them lock in Poppy, I knew it was over, so we ended up all picking champs with high win rates according to op.gg and it was GG from there."
Violet Fields11 votesCounterargument:
Because, if you keep playing games and wanting to surrender at 5, you're obviously doing something wrong, I don't see any reason to ff unless everyone and I mean EVERYONE on the team is 0/7, just because you died once doesn't mean you have to be selfish enough to ruin it for everyone else. We went from 20 minute surrenders, to remakes, to 15 minute anonymous surrenders because everyone complains about it, if you don't like it, then stop playing the game. No I don't mean quit the current game and move onto the next, I mean quit League all together, if you want to ff, you aren't using any strategy, you just don't care, hence why you should either take a break or just stop playing. I don't surrender because how else are you going to learn to play from behind? Instead of giving up, take huge risks like trying to steal baron instead of running it through mid.
Mordepool3 votesCounterargument:
Because, if you keep playing games and wanting to surrender at 5, you're obviously doing something wrong, I don't see any reason to ff unless everyone and I mean EVERYONE on the team is 0/7, just because you died once doesn't mean you have to be selfish enough to ruin it for everyone else. We went from 20 minute surrenders, to remakes, to 15 minute anonymous surrenders because everyone complains about it, if you don't like it, then stop playing the game. No I don't mean quit the current game and move onto the next, I mean quit League all together, if you want to ff, you aren't using any strategy, you just don't care, hence why you should either take a break or just stop playing. I don't surrender because how else are you going to learn to play from behind? Instead of giving up, take huge risks like trying to steal baron instead of running it through mid.
Wow the only person with any semblance of rational thought. I didn't think I would find one in this thread
Marshbouy2 votesGlad I'm not alone.
ChaosThief1 votesI think instead of "anonymous" you meant "unanimous"
But honestly, yeah, I personally find surrender votes stupid because it just gives people an excuse to give up the game once they fall behind a certain amount. Instead of playing the game, they pretty much just go through the motions waiting for the surrender vote, and it's just not fun to play on teams that do that.
LetMeCarry19831 votes98% of my losses are from teams that just feed nonstop. In all 2 lanes and the jungler(or all 3 lanes if I'm jungle). What point is there playing out a game that is 17-3 by 13 minutes. If my team doesn't ff, I just afk. Do you think they will magically grow brains 10 minutes later and start winning? No, they will just feed more. I prefer not to waste the time with a sure loss and just take the chance that I get a team with working brains next game.
FUUUBAAAR1 votesCounterargument:
Because, if you keep playing games and wanting to surrender at 5, you're obviously doing something wrong, I don't see any reason to ff unless everyone and I mean EVERYONE on the team is 0/7, just because you died once doesn't mean you have to be selfish enough to ruin it for everyone else. We went from 20 minute surrenders, to remakes, to 15 minute anonymous surrenders because everyone complains about it, if you don't like it, then stop playing the game. No I don't mean quit the current game and move onto the next, I mean quit League all together, if you want to ff, you aren't using any strategy, you just don't care, hence why you should either take a break or just stop playing. I don't surrender because how else are you going to learn to play from behind? Instead of giving up, take huge risks like trying to steal baron instead of running it through mid.
Try to learn, instead of quitting, good lord if more people thought of it that way it'd be a nice change.
iTaLenTZ8 votesI want surrenders right after everyone locks his champ in champ select because 9/10 times you can already fill in who will win.
Sp33d Zer06 votesNext week:
Bring a 5 minute surrender please. We know these games are done by first blood anyways.
Mojihito6663 votesThey are often done in champ select now
Silverjust5 votesthey need to fix the snowball, not change surrendering games that need to be surrendered at 10 or 15 min are not fun, that is the problem, not that we cant leave a game like this
MetalGearTeemo4 votesBelieve in throws, they believe in you. How do you think your team ended up where they are.
OFA FullCowling4 voteslmao you can't even ff@10 in aram, and games really are won and lost on the load screen there.
Mr Dalloway4 votesThe rule of ff.
My team is feeding and the game is feeling miserable and there is no hope. 2 out of 3 people decline the surrender vote. They continue to do so multiple times even though the enemies lead keeps getting larger.
My team is winning. I am carrying and having a lot of fun and don't want it to end. Enemy team surrenders at 15.
Snowman Arc2 votesEvery fucking time.
JRobin313 votes20 minute surrender... players want a 15 minute surrender... 15 minute surrender... players want a 10 minute surrender... 10 minute surrender... players will want a 5 minute surrender... 5 minute surrender... players will want surrender at any time... takes five votes to surrender... players want 4 votes to surrender... 4 votes to surrender... players want 3 votes to surrender... 3 votes to surrender... players will want 2 votes to surrender... 2 votes to surrender... players will want 1 vote surrender...
eventually players will want to play Korean scrim style.
Seriously, though, when is RIOT going to implement a setting that allows me to permanently ignore all this surrender crap? I don't mind that you want to surrender. I really don't. But I do mind being bugged by this shit. Get it off my screen. I never want to see it... ever.
HeyHeresTre2 votesYou should be able to surrender at any time if all five agree on it.
ISLAMICWARRIOR992 votesEarly surrender should be 4/1 and after 20 3/2. Either that or bring back solo carrying like older seasons. It's dumb af one bottom feeding autist drooling on their keyboard instead of using hands can lose a game but one good player has a hard time carrying
Anzila2 votesHow about a good old-fashioned mercy rule? Say, a surrender vote pops up in the first 20 minutes if a team gets down by at least 10 kills and stays that way for at least a minute. Similarly, if one or two players go afk for more than five minutes in the first twenty -- and preferably exclude their premade teammates from voting.
Thilmer2 votesSometimes I clearly know the game is lost, but someone that is already 0-7 is keeping me hostage there because he/she is too dumb to notice the game is completely lost. And I can't simply go somewhere else because of leaverbuster.
We need an early surrender option or teaching people to surrend when the game is clearly lost so they stop wasting everyone's time.
Or maybe making the game less snowbally, something that people had suggested for at least a whole year, but Riot doesn't feel like it, you know. [sg-ahri-3]
remakoro2 votesSome times we are winning or can win but some dumb fuck keeps spamming surrender votes.
fatherdarius2 votes10 min vote should be unanimous. 15 min vote should be 4 of 5. 20 min vote should be 3 of 2.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votes15 min vote should be unanimous. 20 min vote should be unanimous. 25 min vote should be unanimous.
It should only go to 4/5 at 35 minutes.
You see? People have differing points of view.
Encouraging surrender just because people are slightly behind is stupid. It should require the entire team going "Yeah, this is over", not 2 or 3 people going "Fuck it I'm bored accept your loss because I don't want to play anymore".
fatherdarius1 votesI'm totally okay with your point of view, mate. I was just listing my preference. I don't surrender all that often anyway.
Spacesuit Spiff1 votesGame might as well just auto-surrender in the lobby based on which team got boned by matchmaking. That wouldn't be a massively different way to award lp
FUUUBAAAR1 votesI mean because this game got actually so hardly one sided and comebacks are nearly impossible, just bring out a surrender vote at min 10. If you want, that your game is so hardly onesided, okay, do it but then please put a possibility to surrender early, i dont wanna waste my time here. And please with 4 yes, not 5 like min 15
I don't want to sound pretentious, but I'm only a newly promoted B1 and there usually is actually a chance of coming back in my experience, which stretches back to Aatrox's release and between all the permanent modes. I understand where you're coming from, I've been in my fair share of 2/10 (and worse) by the 10-minute mark matches and when that happens, it usually does feel like it's a lost cause, but more often than not when my team would stick it out (without tilting hard or raging like a monkey on steroids), and calmly, rationally try to win; we usually got a lot farther/closer to winning than we'd thought we would at that 10-minute mark.
As far as not wanting to waste your time well... It's a videogame, that's more or less what they're for, so I really don't see how not being able to surrender changes that.
LetMeCarry19831 votesbut more often than not when my team would stick it out (without tilting hard or raging like a monkey on steroids), and calmly, rationally try to win; we usually got a lot farther/closer to winning than we'd thought we would at that 10-minute mark.
Wait till you reach mid Silver. This childlike innocence of yours will evaporate very very quickly. The feeding in Silver is quite insane compared to Bronze.
FUUUBAAAR1 votesWait till you reach mid Silver. This childlike innocence of yours will evaporate very very quickly. The feeding in Silver is quite insane compared to Bronze.
Actually in my first competitive season i was silver four right out of the gate thanks to playing safe and using gold income runes to snowball as early as possible, got my ass handed to me so hard i was b5 by the end of it, but that's how it goes. As for the feeding part of my comment you conveniently cut out, I suggest reading it, 2/10 was not the worst I've seen by a long shot lol.
I play games on the internet, right there you should know most of my "childlike innocence" was gone a long time ago. I decided that rather than letting
"toxic" mentality and players essentially control MY mood, I would go the route of relative detachment (you can't really empathize with people you meet on the internet in most cases after all, you just don't see/learn enough about them to genuinely be able to within the roughly half-hour period of a league match). Of course, it doesn't work for everyone, nothing does, but to me it seems rather silly to get so wound up over things like that when I think "how important is this to me, in my life?" and then realize that while I AM trying my best, ultimately it's a 15-45 minute game in most cases that will apply to absolutely nothing in your life away from the keyboard unless you MAKE it.
StoneSparrow1 votesA mercy rule would be good, if either team was down x kills or y gold, the early surrrender option would appear. I just think people give up to easily when its still very possible to win.
LibroMastro1 votesPeople would say no anyways lol idk what's the point
remakoro1 votesBring 5 mins surrender vote. So those dumb tards will be able to surrender after FB.
Dorans Pants1 votes2019 ---> surrender at first blood
Lux Is Mai Waifu1 votesit would be nice in 3v3
Sukishoo1 votesHow about FF at ALWAYS. So right when the match starts we can go "OMG I HATE THIS, GGFF" XDD
eFAR01 votesI don't think 10 min surrender is necessary. If you actually get stomped that hard most of the time some champ select op.gg scouting could offer you an idea if the game would go well or not. Or just comparing team comps/mindset of your team in champ select. Better to lose 3 or 10 lp dodging than losing 15+ in a 10 minute stomp.
Daddy FeedLord1 votesmake a 10 min unanimous and 15 can be 4-1
Mathgodpi1 votesI'd be in favor of a mercy rule... if you trail by 10 kills within the first 10 minutes, the game automatically ends.
Azadethe1 votesyou gonna reimburse me the LP I lose because you can't stomach trying to win? Because that happens in 80% of games.
Mathgodpi1 votesI can stomach it just fine. The problem is that I lose 99.9% of the time when teammates feed relentlessly and we have a 10+ kill deficit at the 10 minute mark, even if I do everything right. What a waste of time!
