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Why not Divide Marksmen into Subclasses?

BULLSEYE89·8/30/2018, 5:01:40 PM·3 votes·849 views

The whole of bot-lane has always been a balance problem for Riot, especially the itemization. Bot-lane was reworked in season 6 (Marksmen update), season 7(ADC 2K17 LUL), and recently in season 8(patch 8.11). All these iterations were failures – the changes either skyrocketed the importance of ADCs or made them utterly useless. The reason for this problem stems from ADCs being a little too similar. Even though Riot has subclasses for other classes, they don’t have any for Marksmen. I think a good starting point to easily balance ADCs would be to completely flesh out different subclasses for Marksmen. They would be something like this - Metal Storm Gunners – Basically hyper carries. These kinds of ADCs have a weak early game, decent mid game, and a strong late game. Examples – Tristana , Jinx , Ashe , Twitch , Vayne , Sivir , Xayah , KogMaw .

Snipers – Basically poke champions. These kinds of ADCs are decent at all stages of the game, they can never be too strong, but they will never fall off.
Examples – Caitlyn , Varus , Jhin , Kalista , Lucian , and maybe Ezreal

RPGs – basically early-game focused ADCs. These kinds of ADCs have a strong early game, decent mid game, and a weak late game.
Examples – Draven , MissFortune

Basically, RPGs > Snipers > MSG (early), MSG > Snipers > RPGs (late), and mid game is purely skill based. (‘>’ = better) Now, I know that a few of the champs I have listed above don’t exactly play by that style, but it would be a lot easier to balance if they did. Also, I specifically left out champions that were classified as marksmen but didn’t play as an ADC (graves, corki, etc.). Also, Kaisa is just a copy of Vayne , but WAY more annoying and overloaded, so I left her out. Like, she has everything a champion can have, except maybe invulnerability (I bet, in a few patches, she’ll get passive on ult, giving her invulnerability).

The benefits of such a change would – • Make it easier for riot to balance the champs, since they know what the champ should do • Give ADCs more variety and diversity, since each ADC does something different Also, as an added benefit, from now on, ADCs can start getting their own niches. This makes each champ bring something unique to the rift. This doesn’t have to be analyzed or anything, it’s got nothing to do with play rates, etc., and it’ll just make balancing of ADCs easier. tell me what you guys think of this. fell free to make suggestions.

9 Comments

Pika Fox8/30/2018, 5:24:48 PM5 votes

Marksmen already have their own sublasses.

You have utility carries like ashe and varus

lane bullies like mf, draven, lucian

AD casters like varus, lucian, ezreal

Dualists include ezreal, vayne, kaisa

Boulderox8/30/2018, 5:11:59 PM2 votes

they are: Bot lane focused marksman: Ashe Caitlyn Draven Ezreal Jhin Jinx Kaisa Kalista KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Sivir Tristana Twitch Varus Vayne Xayah

And marksman that can go other places: Azir Corki Graves Jayce Kennen Kindred Quinn Teemo Urgot

EvilUnicornLord8/30/2018, 5:16:13 PM1 votes

Marksman (or at least, ADCs) all perform the same role with their own unique take on it.

Of course, you wouldn't go Azir or Urgot ADC despite them being marksmen.

Shukr4n8/30/2018, 5:03:56 PM1 votes

since riot promote diveristy your idea would lock them into their "role".

for me it s a no

vgamedude8/30/2018, 5:55:45 PM1 votes

ADC has never been useless, they have always been literally 99 percent of what you see bot lane, even during the ridiculous and stupid "adc in 2k17" meme thats all you had. Even at their """worst""" theyre literally so strong as to make them a requirement. Really makes you think.

Doge20208/30/2018, 6:29:13 PM1 votes

I would like to see a more utility based adc like Ashe that has slightly more CC potential then other ADC’s and isn’t so overloaded in damage. Usually the trend in the adc area is that most of them have either 1-2 forms of CC (like Jinx with her e and w) or Zero CC at all in their basic kit (example is Ezreal). Then you have Ashe with a form of CC in almost every single part of her kit, that is her passive that slows on hit, her q that also applies her passive, her w slow,and finally her ult that gives a giant ass stun to the first champ hit, and she also has a huge utility ability that is really helpful with scouting (her e). Even though Ashe doesn’t deal a lot of damage, she can easily provide a ton of CC to help her team get ahead and win the game and I would like to see more utility based ADCs like Ashe in the bot lane for more diversity.

Veraska8/30/2018, 6:33:54 PM1 votes

They all do damage, and they all do more damage late game, they might have different tools (cc, mobility etc) they all contribute to the role primarily the exact same way, as opposed to tanks that are split between bodyguards and innitiators