Sheen and GP

LupusDeMorte·May 10, 2015·1 votes·1,102 views

Sheen is an item which has two requirements to be used. First, that an ability be activated, which in turn places sheen's passive on the champion. Second, it requires an auto attack to use the passive. This is a two fold system which requires an two events in a specified order. However, with GP he can get sheen, and then fire his gun which is an ability, but sheen procts with the gun, instead of going to the champion to be used on an auto attack. How is it that an item, which requires a two step process, be used in 1 single step with an ability that has little to no cooldown on a melee champion.

10 Comments

Deep Terror NamiMay 10, 20151 votes

Well...that's how the ability is designed to work. Same with Ezreal's Q. Even with the rework, it's probably not going to change.

TalamareMay 10, 20151 votes

Gangplank is a completely mid tier choice, Sheen has been nerfed to like 80% (and to deal physical damage)

This is really not an issue.

Lord DusteonMay 10, 20151 votes

Sheen gives you a mark that expends on next autoattack anytime you cast something. Gangplank's Q is casted, then lands. Gangplank's Q acts as a melee autoattack for almost everything (it procs Tiamat/Ravenous Hydra, can crit, uses the melee version of Iceborn's slow (only exception is spell shields still block it)) and thus procs the sheen on hit to do extra damage.

LupusDeMorteMay 10, 20151 votes

If this were the case, that a shot counts as an activation, and a land counts as an execution of said activation, then this would be accurate for multiple different abilites that this has no affect on, such as sivir boomerang, or caitlin's skill shot, or urgot's shot, or any other countless champion who has a skill shot/homing shot, and yet these only activate sheen and does not execute it. So why does this only apply to very specific champion abilities and not them all if the logic you provided me is why it works.

AkeydelMay 10, 20151 votes

It activates on Ezreal q as well. This is because Gangplank and Ezreal q's are counted as aa's, as if they were aa modifiers (gp's next aa is ranged and targets, and ez's next aa is a skillshot). That being said, sheen procs on all aa modifiers.

TheDuelist999May 10, 20151 votes

Blitz e also comes to mind. Any aa modifier really including gp e and yi e

Lord DusteonMay 10, 20152 votes

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If this were the case, that a shot counts as an activation, and a land counts as an execution of said activation, then this would be accurate for multiple different abilites that this has no affect on, such as sivir boomerang, or caitlin's skill shot, or urgot's shot, or any other countless champion who has a skill shot/homing shot, and yet these only activate sheen and does not execute it. So why does this only apply to very specific champion abilities and not them all if the logic you provided me is why it works.

Because as I said "Sheen gives you a mark that expends on next autoattack anytime you cast something. Gangplank's Q is casted, then lands. Gangplank's Q acts as a melee autoattack"

Gangplank's Q is cast (proccing Sheen), and when it lands uses the Sheen proc AS IT ACTS AS A MELEE AUTOATTACK. Sivir's Q, Caitlyn's Q, and Urgot's Q are all spells, while Gangplank's Q is a spell that applies on hit effects as a melee autoattack.

Rinky DinkyMay 10, 20151 votes

You don't know how gangplank's kit works.

/thread

Read Q tool tip

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LupusDeMorteMay 10, 20151 votes

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You don't know how gangplank's kit works.

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Read Q tool tip

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Regardless of what the tool tip states, it still ignores the two prong activation and execution of sheen

RenailleMay 10, 20151 votes

Sheen is an onhit affect that is proc'd by spell casting. Gangplank's Q is a spell that applies on hit affects. Just like Nasus q, Irelia Q, Renekton W, Ezreal Q and many others.